XPost: alt.society.liberalism, talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism   
   From: someone@somewhere.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:21:56 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:   
      
   > MarkA  wrote in   
   > news:pan.2013.03.02.21.47.42.104227@somewhere.invalid:   
   >   
   >> On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:37:11 -0800, Oglethorpe wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> "Don Kresch"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:9nb2j8p2gtl1mffv68rlh1d9sfipglohfu@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:45:48 -0500, MarkA    
   >>>> scrawled in blood:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:36:18 -0800, JohnJohnsn wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Feb 24, 6:30 pm, Kurt Nicklas  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So just what is so "progressive" about the Left? Seems to me their   
   >>>>>>> ideology is aimed at one thing and one thing alone: increasing the   
   >>>>>>> power   
   >>>>>>> of central government at the expense of personal liberty. Everything   
   >>>>>>> they advocate has that as the motivation and greater government   
   >>>>>>> control of our lives as the end.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So what is so progressive about that? Government control over   
   >>>>>>> people's lives has been around for thousands of years. Escaping that   
   >>>>>>> sort of control is why most of us, or our parents or our   
   > grandparents   
   >>>>>>> or great- grandparents came here to get away from.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Why do "progressives" favor that sort of imperial control over   
   >>>>>>> people's lives rather than letting people have the liberty for which   
   >>>>>>> this country   
   >>>>>>> was founded?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What sort of progress does the Left have in mind for us?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Know The Enemy - Communism   
   >>>>>> Time for school.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Today boys and girls, we will discuss communism, and why it remains   
   > as   
   >>>>>> the   
   >>>>>> greatest threat to humanity.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>Communism has been tried.  It failed.  It is no longer a viable   
   >>>>>political/economic system.  It is no longer the greatest threat to   
   >>>>>anyone. In America, capitalism is a much bigger threat.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> We don't have capitalism. Never have.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Capitalism is in the process of failing,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Prove it. Prove that we have capitalism and that it is failing.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Make sure that when you do, you don't confuse capitalism with   
   >>>> mercantilism, cronyism, interventionism, fascism, welfare-warefare   
   > state   
   >>>> socialism, and other such.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Oh, I know you will anyway; it's just fun to point that out in the   
   > first   
   >>>> place just so that you know that I know that you'll fail.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> We have capitalism. We'd have more and better were it not for government   
   >>> interference.   
   >>   
   >> Spoken like a true plutocrat.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Does the A stand for asshole?   
      
   No, it stands for "amused", as in "amused that so many non-wealthy   
   Americans think the current capitalist system is serving their interests."   
   Buy any lottery tickets lately?   
      
   --   
   MarkA   
      
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