XPost: alt.society.liberalism, talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism   
   From: nobody@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:45:33 -0600, Don Kresch wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:53:51 -0500, MarkA    
   > scrawled in blood:   
   >   
   >>On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:21:56 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> MarkA  wrote in   
   >>> news:pan.2013.03.02.21.47.42.104227@somewhere.invalid:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:37:11 -0800, Oglethorpe wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> "Don Kresch"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:9nb2j8p2gtl1mffv68rlh1d9sfipglohfu@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:45:48 -0500, MarkA    
   >>>>>> scrawled in blood:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:36:18 -0800, JohnJohnsn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 6:30 pm, Kurt Nicklas  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So just what is so "progressive" about the Left? Seems to me   
   >>>>>>>>> their ideology is aimed at one thing and one thing alone:   
   >>>>>>>>> increasing the power   
   >>>>>>>>> of central government at the expense of personal liberty.   
   >>>>>>>>> Everything they advocate has that as the motivation and greater   
   >>>>>>>>> government control of our lives as the end.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So what is so progressive about that? Government control over   
   >>>>>>>>> people's lives has been around for thousands of years. Escaping   
   >>>>>>>>> that sort of control is why most of us, or our parents or our   
   >>> grandparents   
   >>>>>>>>> or great- grandparents came here to get away from.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Why do "progressives" favor that sort of imperial control over   
   >>>>>>>>> people's lives rather than letting people have the liberty for   
   >>>>>>>>> which this country   
   >>>>>>>>> was founded?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What sort of progress does the Left have in mind for us?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Know The Enemy - Communism   
   >>>>>>>> Time for school.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Today boys and girls, we will discuss communism, and why it   
   >>>>>>>> remains   
   >>> as   
   >>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>> greatest threat to humanity.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Communism has been tried.  It failed.  It is no longer a viable   
   >>>>>>>political/economic system.  It is no longer the greatest threat to   
   >>>>>>>anyone. In America, capitalism is a much bigger threat.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> We don't have capitalism. Never have.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Capitalism is in the process of failing,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Prove it. Prove that we have capitalism and that it is failing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Make sure that when you do, you don't confuse capitalism with   
   >>>>>> mercantilism, cronyism, interventionism, fascism, welfare-warefare   
   >>> state   
   >>>>>> socialism, and other such.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Oh, I know you will anyway; it's just fun to point that out in the   
   >>> first   
   >>>>>> place just so that you know that I know that you'll fail.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> We have capitalism. We'd have more and better were it not for   
   >>>>> government interference.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Spoken like a true plutocrat.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> Does the A stand for asshole?   
   >>   
   >>No, it stands for "amused", as in "amused that so many non-wealthy   
   >>Americans think the current capitalist system is serving their   
   >>interests." Buy any lottery tickets lately?   
   >   
   > 	I'm amused that Marky hasn't risen to my challenge yet.   
      
   Don, I want you to know that I really do admire you.  However, you are a   
   perfect example of the fact that the line between brilliant and insane can   
   be a fuzzy one.   
      
   --   
   MarkA   
   Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before   
   About eight o'clock   
      
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