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   MarkA  wrote in news:pan.2013.03.05.13.13.31.590175   
   @nowhere.invalid:   
      
   > On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:06:58 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:   
   >   
   >> MarkA  wrote in   
   >> news:pan.2013.03.04.15.23.03.255479 @nowhere.invalid:   
   >>   
   >>> On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:21:59 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> MarkA  wrote in   
   >>>> news:pan.2013.03.03.22.53.46.688281@somewhere.invalid:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:21:56 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> MarkA  wrote in   
   >>>>>> news:pan.2013.03.02.21.47.42.104227@somewhere.invalid:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:37:11 -0800, Oglethorpe wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Don Kresch"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:9nb2j8p2gtl1mffv68rlh1d9sfipglohfu@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:45:48 -0500, MarkA   
      
   >>>>>>>>> scrawled in blood:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:36:18 -0800, JohnJohnsn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 6:30 pm, Kurt Nicklas  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> So just what is so "progressive" about the Left? Seems to me   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> their ideology is aimed at one thing and one thing alone:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> increasing the power   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> of central government at the expense of personal liberty.   
   >>>> Everything   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> they advocate has that as the motivation and greater   
   government   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> control of our lives as the end.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> So what is so progressive about that? Government control over   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> people's lives has been around for thousands of years.   
   Escaping   
   >>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> sort of control is why most of us, or our parents or our   
   >>>>>> grandparents   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> or great- grandparents came here to get away from.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do "progressives" favor that sort of imperial control over   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> people's lives rather than letting people have the liberty for   
   >>>> which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> this country   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> was founded?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What sort of progress does the Left have in mind for us?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Know The Enemy - Communism   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Time for school.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Today boys and girls, we will discuss communism, and why it   
   >>>>>>>>>>> remains   
   >>>>>> as   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> greatest threat to humanity.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>Communism has been tried.  It failed.  It is no longer a viable   
   >>>>>>>>>>political/economic system.  It is no longer the greatest threat   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>>>anyone. In America, capitalism is a much bigger threat.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> We don't have capitalism. Never have.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>Capitalism is in the process of failing,   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Prove it. Prove that we have capitalism and that it is failing.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Make sure that when you do, you don't confuse capitalism with   
   >>>>>>>>> mercantilism, cronyism, interventionism, fascism, welfare-   
   warefare   
   >>>>>> state   
   >>>>>>>>> socialism, and other such.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Oh, I know you will anyway; it's just fun to point that out in   
   the   
   >>>>>> first   
   >>>>>>>>> place just so that you know that I know that you'll fail.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> We have capitalism. We'd have more and better were it not for   
   >>>> government   
   >>>>>>>> interference.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Spoken like a true plutocrat.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Does the A stand for asshole?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, it stands for "amused", as in "amused that so many non-wealthy   
   >>>>> Americans think the current capitalist system is serving their   
   >>>> interests."   
   >>>>> Buy any lottery tickets lately?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> No, but then my wife and I work in a technical field and make quite a   
   >> pile   
   >>>> of money the old fashioned way. We earn it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Very nice.  However, the NEW "American Dream" is to make money by   
   >>> ripping off people who earn it.  Just ask any of the Wall Street CEOs   
   >>> who are making multi-million dollar salaries by raiding the pension   
   >>> funds of hard-working wage earners like you and me.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> So? Advocate ti havbe them killed. I won't stop you.   
   >>   
   >> But you won't. Becuase they are paying off your hero.   
   >>   
   >> But more to the point, it isn't me doing it yet everyth8ng you propose   
   >> results in punishment for me and otehr honest hard working people.   
   >   
   > How is having a government that serves the needs of 99% instead of 1%   
   > "punishment"?   
      
   Another clueless moron.   
      
   > Do you actually believe that bullshit about taxes cause   
   > unemployment?   
      
   Yer a loon.   
      
   > Taxes on business are at an all-time low, yet unemployment   
   > remains high.   
      
   Yer a liar.   
      
   > The corporations are taking tax deductions for the costs of   
   > moving their operations to China.   
      
   Yer a propagandist.   
      
   > It's not about "punishing" anyone.  It's about paying for the cost of   
   > running the country by taxing those most able to afford it.   
      
   Do less, dickead.   
      
      
      
      
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