XPost: alt.society.liberalism, talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism
From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net
"MarkA" wrote in message
news:pan.2013.03.07.15.27.50.820390@nowhere.invalid...
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:35:15 -0500, Scout wrote:
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>>
>>
>> "MarkA" wrote in message
>> news:pan.2013.03.06.17.26.55.289600@somewhere.invalid...
>>> On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:41:55 -0500, Scout wrote:
>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have capitalism. We'd have more and better were it not for
>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>> interference.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Spoken like a true plutocrat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does the A stand for asshole?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it stands for "amused", as in "amused that so many non-wealthy
>>>>>>>>> Americans think the current capitalist system is serving their
>>>>>>>> interests."
>>>>>>>>> Buy any lottery tickets lately?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, but then my wife and I work in a technical field and make quite
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>> pile
>>>>>>>> of money the old fashioned way. We earn it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very nice. However, the NEW "American Dream" is to make money by
>>>>>>> ripping off people who earn it. Just ask any of the Wall Street
>>>>>>> CEOs who are making multi-million dollar salaries by raiding the
>>>>>>> pension funds of hard-working wage earners like you and me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So? Advocate ti havbe them killed. I won't stop you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you won't. Becuase they are paying off your hero.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But more to the point, it isn't me doing it yet everyth8ng you
>>>>>> propose results in punishment for me and otehr honest hard working
>>>>>> people.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is having a government that serves the needs of 99% instead of 1%
>>>>> "punishment"? Do you actually believe that bullshit about taxes cause
>>>>> unemployment? Taxes on business are at an all-time low, yet
>>>>> unemployment
>>>>> remains high.
>>>>
>>>> Please recalculate giving consideration to ALL government caused
>>>> expenses,
>>>> not just direct taxation, but OSHA compliances, EPA compliances, Labor
>>>> reports, and so on and then show us that the government imposed costs
>>>> on business are at an all time low.
>>>
>>> None of those expenses on business came into existence in the last 10
>>> years.
>>
>> Really? Government regulation hasn't changed at all in the last 10 years?
>>
>> I'll call bullshit on that claim because I know damn well OSHA
>> regulations
>> have and who knows what else has changed as well.
>>
>> Oh, and I believe the yardstick was "all-time" which means it includes
>> the
>> ENTIRE history of the US.....not just the last 10 years.
>>
>> So I note your lie and I note your attempt to change the conditions set.
>
> No, my original point was that the GOP claims that raising taxes on
> businesses "kills jobs".
That's certainly part of it. Right now it's Obamacare that is killing jobs
and cutting hours.
Oh, but then didn't Obama's administration claim in court that it's a tax?
I will simply note it's not just taxes, nor regulatory overhead, or whatever
but a package deal. If you cut taxes by 10% but increase regulatory overhead
by 20% the net result is a 10% increase in government expense to the company
which means higher costs and the need to figure out some way to either cut
other expenses and/or increase revenue to cover that expense.
Marginal jobs are clearly among the first things considered to cut expenses.
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