XPost: alt.society.liberalism, talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism
From: klausschadenfreude@yahoo.com
>Don Kresch wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:53:20 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> scrawled in blood:
>
>>>Don Kresch wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 05:10:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>> scrawled in blood:
>>>
>>>>>Don Kresch wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 05:30:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>> scrawled in blood:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don Kresch wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:46:41 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
>>>>>>>scrawled in blood:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Don Kresch" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:dqfmj8tikm4cc90l6bpg7v04gnu0jm0o0o@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 21:20:05 -0500, MarkA
>>>>>>>>> scrawled in blood:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:15:49 -0600, Don Kresch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:02:00 -0500, MarkA
>>>>>>>>>>> scrawled in blood:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 02:07:53 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MarkA wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:pan.2013.03.07.15.27.50.820390 @nowhere.invalid:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, my original point was that the GOP claims that raising
taxes on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> businesses "kills jobs".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, stealing money from the private sector to waste on
worthless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> causes is wasteful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Very true. But, levying fair taxes on businesses and individuals
to
>>>>>>>>>>>>provide services that "promote the general welfare" is a worthwhile
>>>>>>>>>>>>investment
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To whom? And what about that money being better spent on what
>>>>>>>>>>> those people wanted in the first place, rather than having it
stolen?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>, and an appropriate role of government.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's no such thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Right, because people in large groups naturally take care of each
other,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, they do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are clueless, Marky. And you have the same dismal view of
>>>>>>>>> humans as the christians do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Actually, most Christians spend both time and money helping each other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, most christians view humanity as fallen and sinful,
>>>>>>>fit only for hell were it not for the grace of god. This is what I was
>>>>>>>referring to: the dismal view of humans as low.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>One of the reasons why they have been able to create wealth over time..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Socialists have nothing but a history of squandering and destroying
wealth
>>>>>>>>in all of their attempts at imposing their way of doing things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christianity is socialistic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't ANY of you assholes know what socialism is?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>Apparently not, if you're stupid enough to think that Christianity has
>>>>anything to do with socialism.
>>>
>>> And yet there's christian socialism. And there's that whole
>>>"Am I not my brother's keeper?" thing. And the redistribution. It's
>>>socialistic.
>>
>>Why don't you go back to the definitions I posted
>
> I did. You clearly don't understand them.
Oh good. You can explain where in the New Testament it suggests that
the state owns the means of production. Take all the room you need,
Don.
[chuckle]
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