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friends in alt.fan.blade-runner. Tracking...
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>"Netrunner" wrote in message
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>> Standing in the dark, rainy shadows of a city alleyway, I spied the
>> Replicant Evil Sponge covertly transmitting a message to renegade
>> friends in alt.fan.blade-runner. Tracking...
>>
>>>
>>>"Netrunner" wrote in message
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>>>> Standing in the dark, rainy shadows of a city alleyway, I spied the
>>>> Replicant Evil Sponge covertly transmitting a message to renegade
>>>> friends in alt.fan.blade-runner. Tracking...
>>>>
>>>>>ja?
>>>>
>>>> WTF?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Woah! Is it that surprising? I use it all the time in real life...
>>>
>> A very interesting thought. Perhaps I do have some prejudice here
>> (where I have almost none elsewhere). I equate "ja" directly with
>> "ya", which is the stem of "ya-hoo" as in a person who is a "poncy
>> git". That is not necessarily someone who is rich and privileged
>> (people with whom I do not have any problem per se), but someone who
>> is that plus being a poncy git, but even worse, the people who are not
>> even that, but are still poncy gits.
>
>Ah, now that's interesting. I too equate "ya" with poncy gits, but then I
>say it myself in a kind of post-modern ironic mockery of such people (oh,
>the hilarity of my world). But then, of course, it becomes habitual, and
>people tend to misunderstand (understandably).
Hilarity indeed - now I hear the explanation, I am totally with you -
as I suspected I would be. As you say yourself though - an easily
misunderstood irony... If only I could have heard your voice
inflection, I am sure I would have got it straight away!
>Yuppies, don't you just hate them, ya? *headbutt*
Ouch! Umm... Yeah... now you kinda need to tread carefully there
too. I have myself been described as a yuppie. Well, not
individually, but as a group. And now you're going to want to know
why aren't you? (rhetorical question.) Well..... back in the late
80's when I worked for that Banking Systems software company, before
the recession set in and we still had a big Christmas Bash, well some
complete dimwit decide that a good entertainment for the party for
these (mostly) young, intelligent, successful people would be a
certain aging stand-up "working class" comic who eventually got a role
on Eastenders. When he started making sexist jokes, etc. he was booed
and many simply walked away (including me). The next day, The Sun
newspaper described us as "Yuppies". Well fuck it, in the simplest
definition, I was a Yuppie and do not apologise in the slightest for
it (I earned my money). But I know that you actually mean that other
definition of Yuppie, so I won't take offense .... well not until I'm
in a bad mood anyway...
>At the same time, there can be a hint of German/Swedish mimicry/lampooning
>in its usage, probably arising from memories of old school German lessons. A
>common example is when someone shouts you from across the room, and you turn
>round and say "jaaaaaaaaaaaa?" It's more interesting than saying "yes?" or
>"what?" And, hey, I'm not alone in this, so don't look at me like I'm some
>kind of freak : )
I'll try not to. But my point was it isn't English. Doing that in
German is perfectly natural. And I'll even agree that it is more
interesting (as I said, I regularly use foreign, even Latin words in
my vocab, plus foreign slang, (of which by far my favourite is the
Aussie "bottle shop" to indicate the Off-Licence)), that ummm...
damnit, sometimes my sentences get too long for even me to
understand... I'll try not to look at you as a freak... Although
that would imply looking at you at all. Maybe in 2019 when we all
meet in Los Angeles...
>It interests me that I use many
>> non-English words without concern, but "ja" really irritates me. I
>> have learned several other languages and "ja" is a relevant word in a
>> few of them and, within context, I happily use it. I just have some
>> issue with it being used by native-English speakers using it when
>> speaking English. Sorry if that offends you or even simply surprises
>> you. Guess it is something I have to reflect upon.
>>
>
>Not at all. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it.
>
"Wisdom begins with an open mind." - Who said that? ....... checking
........ oh David Caldwell again! That guy just says the most
awesomely succinct wisdom-like shit ever.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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