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   Message 35 of 495   
   bwalker to Matt Griffin   
   Re: SCROOGE the RIAA GRINCH!! BOYCOTT MU   
   14 Sep 03 16:38:15   
   
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   From: bwalker@caramail.com   
      
   "Matt Griffin"  wrote in message   
   news:3F63F6CC.677265DC@earthlink.net...   
   > bwalker wrote:   
   >   
   > > A 12 year old girl is least likely to be aware of the law. She's still a   
   > > children (sic) for christ's sake, you don't prosecute her like she was   
   an   
   > > adult.   
   > >    
   >   
   > When I was twelve, I was quite well aware of what stealing was and that   
   > theives go to jail. 12 year olds aren't *that* innocent. The issue here,   
   as   
   > I see it, is that you think it isn't wrong to steal music, and you're   
   hiding   
   > behind the "poor, innocent little girl" as a means to your own end. From   
   > what I've heard of the sort of fines that the RIAA is planning to levy   
   > against file sharers, that little "children" got off extremely light. I'm   
   > hearing there's gonna be penalties in the tens of thousands of dollars   
   *per   
   > song* in some cases. If you've been ripping music files and sharing them   
   out   
   > on the web, I'd be a lot less concerned about what they were doing to some   
   > little girl and a lot more concerned that they might be coming after you   
   > next. News I hear is that they're definitely going after more people, the   
   > original 261 are just the first wave of indictments.   
   >   
   > Whether you agree with their politics or not, You've got to respect that   
   > they're frigging serious. We're talking about a fight for survival   
   here --   
   > record industry earnings are down, down, down over the last three years,   
   as   
   > high -- speed internet is spreading like wildfire and sharing larger files   
   > gets easier and easier. These are large multinational corporations   
   employing   
   > very smart people who want to keep their high-paying jobs. Are you ready   
   to   
   > go the distance against these guys for the right to download Justin   
   > Timberlake's music against his will (probably what the 12 year old was   
   > sharing out)? Frankly, that's a battle I don't feel like I could commit   
   much   
   > energy to even if I agreed with you. And as a n independant recording   
   > artist, I really, really don't agree with you.   
   >   
      
      
   That's quite a great exposé about file sharing you gave me there, it's quite   
   sad that wasn't my point at all. In fact, I haven't said anything in my   
   2-lines post that could be close of giving my opinion on the subject so I   
   don't see the reason of this post. Maybe your "battles" would take as much   
   energy from you if you didn't imagine soldiers everywhere.   
      
    Whether you like it or not, the principle that file-sharing is wrong isn't   
   widely known. When was the time Napster was formally declared illegal, 2   
   years ago? This is a very recent phenomenon and not everyone knows what at   
   stakes. Yes, we all know stealing is wrong but we don't all know that   
   file-swapping is stealing. Yes, the argument that copying from Kazaa is the   
   same thing that taping a song from radio is flawed, but not everyone can   
   make the distinction. Read every post on this forum. You know most of them   
   are probably older than twelve so imagine what a twelve year old would   
   think. Unless the RIAA intends to sue everybody who "file-swap" (which they   
   already said they wouldn't do), they could at least have the decency to sue   
   grown people, not kids who barely have the age to go to high school. No, I   
   don't think the kid got off easy and I don't think your info of "tens of   
   thousands per song" has any credibility (Come on, you download 1 LP and you   
   have to pay $100,000? Even the RIAA isn't that much of thief).   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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