From: lalbert1@aol.com   
      
   On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:48:45 +0100, HVS    
   wrote:   
   >On 01 Sep 2021, Michael Trew wrote   
   >> On 8/31/2021 4:58 PM, Questor wrote:   
      
   >>>> Re: Why Did Ed Asner Look So Old?   
      
   >>> Genetics, life style (particularly over time), cultural bias,   
   >>> random factors?   
      
   >> I agree.  I've noticed, many times, that people 70+ years ago look   
   >> "older" than people appear to look today.  On top of all else, I   
   >> think that the way they dress and compose themselves compared to   
   >> people today seems to factor into it.  I have a picture of my   
   >> grandparents here, he was in his early 40's, grandma in her late   
   >> 30's.  I would have place them easily at late 40's and early 50's,   
   >> had I not known them and the date it was taken.   
      
   >In a similar vein, my wife and I (aged 73 and 69; no children) have   
   >noticed that those of our friends who have fully embraced the   
   >traditional roles of grandparents in their 50s or 60s -- looking   
   >after the grandkids, playing the "really-really-old" role with the   
   >grandkids -- seem to have aged differently than friends without kids   
   >or grandchildren.   
   >It struck us that the "we're grandparents now" cohort seemed to   
   >display more degenerative health symptoms;  move more slowly; and are   
   >a bit slower on the uptake than the "not grandparents" group.   
   >This may well be a coincidence-- and we could be noticing things in   
   >that group while just not seeing it in the no-grandkids group -- but   
   >when we discussed it a while back, we'd both noticed what looked like   
   >a correlation.   
   >I don't think this is a modern thing, though:  when we discussed it,   
   >we could both remember single or childless aunts, uncles, and   
   >parents' friends from 50 or 60 years ago who seemed more active than   
   >the traditionally-generationed families.   
      
      
   My wife and I see a similar difference in our friends who have   
   children (we don't).  We have come to the conclusion that the   
   difference is due to the fact that we have had a much less stressful   
   life than the people we know who have raised children.  In some   
   instances even when the children have grown up they continue to stress   
   their parents.  Continued stress does affect a person's appearance and   
   health.   
      
   Les   
      
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