From: michael.trew@att.net   
      
   On 9/2/2021 1:21 PM, Les Albert wrote:   
   > On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:48:45 +0100, HVS   
   > wrote:   
   >> On 01 Sep 2021, Michael Trew wrote   
   >>> On 8/31/2021 4:58 PM, Questor wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>> Re: Why Did Ed Asner Look So Old?   
   >   
   >>>> Genetics, life style (particularly over time), cultural bias,   
   >>>> random factors?   
   >   
   >>> I agree.  I've noticed, many times, that people 70+ years ago look   
   >>> "older" than people appear to look today.  On top of all else, I   
   >>> think that the way they dress and compose themselves compared to   
   >>> people today seems to factor into it.  I have a picture of my   
   >>> grandparents here, he was in his early 40's, grandma in her late   
   >>> 30's.  I would have place them easily at late 40's and early 50's,   
   >>> had I not known them and the date it was taken.   
   >   
   >> In a similar vein, my wife and I (aged 73 and 69; no children) have   
   >> noticed that those of our friends who have fully embraced the   
   >> traditional roles of grandparents in their 50s or 60s -- looking   
   >> after the grandkids, playing the "really-really-old" role with the   
   >> grandkids -- seem to have aged differently than friends without kids   
   >> or grandchildren.   
   >> It struck us that the "we're grandparents now" cohort seemed to   
   >> display more degenerative health symptoms;  move more slowly; and are   
   >> a bit slower on the uptake than the "not grandparents" group.   
   >> This may well be a coincidence-- and we could be noticing things in   
   >> that group while just not seeing it in the no-grandkids group -- but   
   >> when we discussed it a while back, we'd both noticed what looked like   
   >> a correlation.   
   >> I don't think this is a modern thing, though:  when we discussed it,   
   >> we could both remember single or childless aunts, uncles, and   
   >> parents' friends from 50 or 60 years ago who seemed more active than   
   >> the traditionally-generationed families.   
   >   
   >   
   > My wife and I see a similar difference in our friends who have   
   > children (we don't).  We have come to the conclusion that the   
   > difference is due to the fact that we have had a much less stressful   
   > life than the people we know who have raised children.  In some   
   > instances even when the children have grown up they continue to stress   
   > their parents.  Continued stress does affect a person's appearance and   
   > health.   
   >   
   > Les   
      
   You have me pitying my poor mother.  I'm in my mid 20's now, moved out,   
   yet I know she still worries sick about me.   
      
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