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   On 02 Sep 2021, Les Albert wrote   
      
   > On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:48:45 +0100, HVS   
   >  wrote:   
   >> On 01 Sep 2021, Michael Trew wrote   
   >>> On 8/31/2021 4:58 PM, Questor wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>> Re: Why Did Ed Asner Look So Old?   
   >   
   >>>> Genetics, life style (particularly over time), cultural bias,   
   >>>> random factors?   
   >   
   >>> I agree.  I've noticed, many times, that people 70+ years ago   
   >>> look "older" than people appear to look today.  On top of all   
   >>> else, I think that the way they dress and compose themselves   
   >>> compared to people today seems to factor into it.  I have a   
   >>> picture of my grandparents here, he was in his early 40's,   
   >>> grandma in her late 30's.  I would have place them easily at   
   >>> late 40's and early 50's, had I not known them and the date it   
   >>> was taken.   
   >   
   >> In a similar vein, my wife and I (aged 73 and 69; no children)   
   >> have noticed that those of our friends who have fully embraced   
   >> the traditional roles of grandparents in their 50s or 60s --   
   >> looking after the grandkids, playing the "really-really-old" role   
   >> with the grandkids -- seem to have aged differently than friends   
   >> without kids or grandchildren.   
   >> It struck us that the "we're grandparents now" cohort seemed to   
   >> display more degenerative health symptoms;  move more slowly; and   
   >> are a bit slower on the uptake than the "not grandparents" group.   
   >> This may well be a coincidence-- and we could be noticing things   
   >> in that group while just not seeing it in the no-grandkids group   
   >> -- but when we discussed it a while back, we'd both noticed what   
   >> looked like a correlation.   
   >> I don't think this is a modern thing, though:  when we discussed   
   >> it, we could both remember single or childless aunts, uncles, and   
   >> parents' friends from 50 or 60 years ago who seemed more active   
   >> than the traditionally-generationed families.   
   >   
   >   
   > My wife and I see a similar difference in our friends who have   
   > children (we don't).  We have come to the conclusion that the   
   > difference is due to the fact that we have had a much less   
   > stressful life than the people we know who have raised children.   
   > In some instances even when the children have grown up they   
   > continue to stress their parents.  Continued stress does affect a   
   > person's appearance and health.   
      
   Thanks;  interesting point -- I'll pay more attention to "no kids" vs   
   "no grandkids" group.   
      
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