From: boron_elgar@hotmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:10:39 -0000 (UTC), Howard    
   wrote:   
      
   >Michael Trew  wrote:   
   >   
   >> MANY of these people, will spend ANY money that they get on themselves   
   >> while their children go without.  They buy toys for themselves, drugs,   
   >> and worse.  No, I'm not generalizing, I have first-hand experience.  I   
   >> know all to many people that would blow every bit of that money on   
   >> their own selfish wants, while their children live the same way that   
   >> they did before.   
   >   
   >No. Evidence just don't bear that out. For example, multiple drug   
   >testing programs of TANF recipients finds just a small fraction of   
   >positive results, comparable to what the general population has --   
   >meaning that middle and upper income people who get, say, deductions for   
   >charitible donations, property tax payments, or offsets of capital gains   
   >taxes for paper losses on other assets.   
   >   
   >I've known plenty of well off people who use drugs, and tax credits they   
   >get arguably are feeding their use. I don't think they should be run   
   >through the ringer on drug tests either.   
   >   
   >There is a huge mote/beam problem with the poor where people extrapolate   
   >from the worst to all of the rest, and ignore the much more extensive   
   >populations by insisting that the issue has to be taken as a whole. It's   
   >like complaining that there is a broken Dorito problem by citing the   
   >average of a couple of broken chips in every bag, and when confronted   
   >with the fact that most chips are just fine, responding that it's the   
   >*bag* that's the problem.   
   >   
   >Complicated voucher programs with means testing and verification and all   
   >of that overhead don't fix problems and only keep people from things   
   >like health care, education and housing. They make the programs so   
   >expensive that people want to shut them down because of the overhead   
   >costs per recipient. It's like opening every bag of Doritos in a store   
   >to find the broken chips, breaking more chips in the process, and then   
   >banning Doritos from a store because all of the bags are open.   
      
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