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   From: admin@127.0.0.1   
      
   On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 13:51:44 -0500   
   A Friend  wrote:   
      
   > In article <20221124134255.20cd1cc819d5e4b6c262cd9e@127.0.0.1>,   
   > Kerr-Mudd, John  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:25:09 -0500   
   > > A Friend  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > In article <0001HW.292EBECA01043C8230738A38F@news.giganews.com>, Pluted   
   > > > Pup  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Mon, 02 May 2022 16:43:16 -0700, Bob wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Quora I've already busted the claim that a certain "Leave It to   
   > > > > > Beaver"   
   > > > > > episode had the first appearance (in 1957) on American TV of any part   
   > > > > > of a   
   > > > > > toilet. The claim seems never to have been made before the time DVD   
   > > > > > sales   
   > > > > > of the series were beginning, and I think they just made up a story   
   of   
   > > > > > its   
   > > > > > being held up, so as to boost publicity. The episode air dates and   
   > > > > > production numbers SEEM to back up the story, until you note the   
   others   
   > > > > > and   
   > > > > > see that MANY of them first aired out of production order. Anyway, TV   
   > > > > > commercials for at least a decade had been showing toilets quite   
   > > > > > conspicuously, so the claim that network standards and practices had   
   an   
   > > > > > objection doesn't seem apt. However, someone on Quora suggested   
   > > > > > standards   
   > > > > > may have been lower for commercials, which I strongly doubt.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So what I'm looking for is any examples of toilets from American TV   
   > > > > > PROGRAMS in 1957 or earlier.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I don't know if it's true, but I heard about Leave   
   > > > > It To Beaver having the first TV toilet long before   
   > > > > DVDs were even invented. So it's not a new story.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Leave It to Beaver had Beaver hiding his pet alligator in the toilet   
   > > > tank in the boys' bathroom; I'm not sure if they ever showed the bowl.   
   > > > I don't know why this was controversial, but there you are.   
   > > >   
   > > > We were two adults and five kids in a cramped four-room apartment, so   
   > > > AFAIWC the Cleavers lived in frickin' paradise.  If memory serves, All   
   > > > in the Family was the first to depict a toilet just having been used   
   > > > (i.e., there's the sound of a flush, and then Archie comes downstairs,   
   > > > with hilarity ensuing).   
   > > >   
   > > > One of the reasons we bought this house is that we are two people, and   
   > > > there are two and a half baths.   
   >   
   >   
   > I should have mentioned for those unfamiliar with the term that a   
   > half-bath is a bathroom with a toilet and a sink, but without a tub or   
   > a shower.   
      
   I was kinda joshing; it's curious to this BrEng speaker that a bathroom to   
   us is literally a room with a bath in. (Maybe changed to a shower, but   
   historically contained a bathtub; very probably a WC as well). A room   
   with just a WC & basin is called a toilet.   
      
   Half a bath would lose water.   
      
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