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   From: suzee@imbris.com   
      
   On 11/25/2022 12:58 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > suzeeq   wrote:   
   >> On 11/24/2022 4:14 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:   
   >>> A Friend  wrote:   
   >>>> In article <20221124134255.20cd1cc819d5e4b6c262cd9e@127.0.0.1>,   
   >>>> Kerr-Mudd, John  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:25:09 -0500   
   >>>>> A Friend  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> In article <0001HW.292EBECA01043C8230738A38F@news.giganews.com>, Pluted   
   >>>>>> Pup  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2022 16:43:16 -0700, Bob wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Quora I've already busted the claim that a certain "Leave It to   
   >>>>>>>> Beaver"   
   >>>>>>>> episode had the first appearance (in 1957) on American TV of any part   
   >>>>>>>> of a   
   >>>>>>>> toilet. The claim seems never to have been made before the time DVD   
   >>>>>>>> sales   
   >>>>>>>> of the series were beginning, and I think they just made up a story of   
   >>>>>>>> its   
   >>>>>>>> being held up, so as to boost publicity. The episode air dates and   
   >>>>>>>> production numbers SEEM to back up the story, until you note the   
   others   
   >>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>> see that MANY of them first aired out of production order. Anyway, TV   
   >>>>>>>> commercials for at least a decade had been showing toilets quite   
   >>>>>>>> conspicuously, so the claim that network standards and practices had   
   an   
   >>>>>>>> objection doesn't seem apt. However, someone on Quora suggested   
   >>>>>>>> standards   
   >>>>>>>> may have been lower for commercials, which I strongly doubt.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So what I'm looking for is any examples of toilets from American TV   
   >>>>>>>> PROGRAMS in 1957 or earlier.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I don't know if it's true, but I heard about Leave   
   >>>>>>> It To Beaver having the first TV toilet long before   
   >>>>>>> DVDs were even invented. So it's not a new story.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Leave It to Beaver had Beaver hiding his pet alligator in the toilet   
   >>>>>> tank in the boys' bathroom; I'm not sure if they ever showed the bowl.   
   >>>>>> I don't know why this was controversial, but there you are.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> We were two adults and five kids in a cramped four-room apartment, so   
   >>>>>> AFAIWC the Cleavers lived in frickin' paradise.  If memory serves, All   
   >>>>>> in the Family was the first to depict a toilet just having been used   
   >>>>>> (i.e., there's the sound of a flush, and then Archie comes downstairs,   
   >>>>>> with hilarity ensuing).   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> One of the reasons we bought this house is that we are two people, and   
   >>>>>> there are two and a half baths.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I should have mentioned for those unfamiliar with the term that a   
   >>>> half-bath is a bathroom with a toilet and a sink, but without a tub or   
   >>>> a shower.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Not exactly. There are four components to a bathroom. Toilet, sink, tub,   
   >>> shower. Any combination of two of those would be a half bath.   
   That’s how   
   >>> contractors count. Realtors often just count any bathroom as a whole   
   >>> bathroom even if all it has in it is a sink because realtors cheat.   
   >>>   
   >> Actually they don't. A full bath has a sink and toilet, and either a tub,   
   >> a shower, or both, or a tub with shower. They call them 3 piece   
   >> bathrooms or 4 piece.   
   >   
   > Shower stall but no tub is a 3/4 bathroom. No idea what they call it if   
   > there's a shower stall plus a separate tub.   
   >   
   A 4 piece.   
      
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