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   mivmvi@bigfoot.com to All   
   M I`5,Per secution , MI5 Waste T axpayer   
   26 Dec 07 08:42:13   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams, alt.fan.charles-manson, alt.fan.chris   
   XPost: alt.fan.clint-eastwood   
      
   MI5 Persecution Update:. Friday 30 April, 1999   
      
   If You Intend. To Reply, Please Read This   
   Please.... keep your response to one page!. Faxes over. a page or two will   
   be deleted without being. read.   
      
   Somewhere. between 0 and 100%   
      
   The last. few days there have been no clear recordable instances of   
   abuse.. However, while travelling on the Underground, while walking around   
   near my home and going to friends homes,. I am constantly troubled by   
   thoughts that those people over there might be. about to get at me; that   
   the couple. sitting in the opposite seats laughing are in fact laughing at   
   me; et cetera,. et cetera.   
      
   A comment by. a scientist to the BSE inquiry sticks in my mind. He   
   described the possible scale of. the epidemic as "between 0% and 100%". It   
   might not be happening, it might not happen at all,. to any discernable   
   degree.... or it might be total. Without clear recording, which seems. to   
   have become impossible the last couple of weeks,. there is no way of   
   knowing. whether the harassment really is continuing, whether we have   
   entered a temporary hiatus, or whether perhaps it. has perhaps stopped for   
   now.   
      
   But for the time being I think. there arent any reasons to dicontinue these   
   faxes. I only re-started them six weeks ago in response to a resumption. of   
   MI5 harassment; and I think I will need to be more convinced of. absence of   
   persecution before I discontinue. my complaints.   
      
   The Newscasters are. still watching   
      
   In the last few. weeks there have been at least a couple of fairly overt   
   instances of "interactive watching" by newscasters. I reported this. in a   
   previous "MI5. Persecution Update".   
      
   These instances are really very rare compared to 1990-91, when. there were   
   many dozens of such occurrences. Undoubtedly the reduction. is due to my   
   practice of videotaping everything I see. Recently. I had the opportunity   
   of showing this years "happenings" (Jon Snow/Nicholas Witchell). to my   
   psychiatrist, and he agreed that. in both cases the newscasters were   
   expressing merriment without visible cause, and that objectively. it might   
   be possible for my claims to be true - although of course. other people   
   reported similar thoughts to him, and this thinking. is usually a symptom   
   of. illness.   
      
   Read About the MI5 Persecution on the World. Wide Web   
      
   The March 1998 issue (number 42). of .net Magazine reviews the website   
   describing it as an "excellent site". Since August 11,. 1996 over 50,000   
   people have browsed. this website.   
      
   You are. encouraged to read the web pages which include   
      
   a. FAQ (frequently asked questions) section outlining the nature of the   
   persecutors, their methods of harassment through the media,. people at work   
   and among the. general public   
      
   an evidence. section, which carries audio and video clips of media and   
   workplace. harassment, rated according to how directly I think they refer to me   
      
   objective descriptions of the. state security agencies involved   
      
   scanned texts of. the complaints I have made to media and state security   
   agencies. involved   
      
   posts which have been made to netnews over the. last four years on this topic   
      
   Keith Hill MP (Labour. - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever   
   refuses. to help.   
      
   MI5 Waste Taxpayer Millions on Pointless. Hate-Campaign   
      
   Recently I was talking. to an independent observer about the nature and   
   purpose of the perceived campaign of persecution against. me. The person I   
   spoke to, a highly intelligent man, said he was struck by. the utter   
   pointlessness of. the perceived campaign against me. He also said that, if   
   my theories. were in fact true, many people would have to be involved, in   
   the surveillance itself, and in the technical side of. the delivery of   
   information from my home. to TV studios for example, if the "interactive   
   watching" were happening as. described. He voiced these thoughts without   
   any prompting from me; but. both I and other observers had arrived at   
   pretty much the same conclusions, some years. ago.   
      
   I saw a team of four men at. Toronto Airport in 1993   
      
   To carry out the surveillance. alone, full-time, would employ four or five   
   men,. or their equivalent in terms of man-hours. Each man would "work" an   
   eight-hour shift, so you would need at least three. men doing the   
   surveillance, plus a. connecting link / manager. An indicator that this   
   estimate is correct arrived in 1993, when I. was accosted by one of a group   
   of four men at Toronto Airport;. he said, laughing, "if he tries to run   
   away well find him". Plainly these were. the men who had been involved in   
   the intrusive surveillance of me. for the preceding three years.   
      
   On other occasions, I have seen the same man on two or. three occasions. On   
   one. such occasion, at Ottawas Civic Hospital in November 1996; he gave his   
   name to the doctor as "Alan Holdsworth". or some such; my hearing is not   
   very good sometimes and I. am not sure of the surname, although I am sure   
   "Alan" was his first name. I saw exactly the same man again in Ottawa,. at   
   the airport, in July 1998. Obviously, other. people must be "working" with   
   this person; he would not be. the sole agent employed in this case.   
      
   Usenet readers views on the. Cost to MI5 of Running the Campaign   
      
   Here's what a couple of other people on internet. newsgroups / Usenet   
   (uk.misc) had. to say regarding the cost of running such an operation...   
      
   PO: >Have some sense, grow up and smell reality. What you. are talking about   
   PO: >would take loads of planning, tens of thousands. of pounds and lots of   
   PO: >people. involved in the planning, execution and maintenance of it. You   
   PO: >must have a very high opinion. of yourself to think you are worth it.   
      
   and......   
      
   PM: >But why?. And why you? Do you realize how much it would cost to keep   
   PM:. >one person under continuous surveillance for five years? Think about   
   PM: >all the man/hours. Say. they _just_ allocated a two man team and a   
   PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year.. Two men,   
   PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd need to work in. shifts -- so it would   
   PM: >be six men at #20,000 (which. with on-costs would work out at more   
   like   
   PM: >#30,000 to the. employer.)   
   PM:. >   
   PM: >So, we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say,. #40,000 for the   
   PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've got. the hardware involved. And   
   PM: >any transcription that. needs doing. You don't think the 'Big Boss'   
   PM: >would listen. to hours and hours of tapes, do you.   
   PM:. >   
   PM: >So, all. in all, you couldn't actually do the job for much less than   
   PM: >a. quarter million a year. Over five years. What are you doing that makes   
   PM:. >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and a quarter million   
   PM: >on. you?   
      
   Those are pretty much the sort of calculations that went through. my head   
   once I. stopped to consider what it must be costing them to run this   
      
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