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|    Joseph Nebus to allbell@ctc.net    |
|    Re: Belated comment: the space elevator     |
|    18 May 08 19:15:00    |
      6647b6e3       From: nebusj-@-rpi-.edu              allbell@ctc.net writes:              >On May 14, 5:00 pm, nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:       >> I'm sorry that more urgent issues have been keeping me from       >> posting regularly but on the bright side I have 145 pages done of a       >> second textbook that will hopefully make my plumage more interesting       >> to potential employers.              >Did you write that book about "Vorticity, Statistical Mechanics, and       >Monte Carlo Simulation"? If so, wow. How many celebrities have people       >who can write statistical mechanics textbooks in their active fan       >base?               I did indeed. Well, I co-wrote it. There's actually some of       my doctoral thesis which can be made out in there, although it's much       more readable in that.               I expect there's a lot of celebrities with fans like that,       though, particularly comic celebrities. (Comedy seems really well-       suited to draw mathematically-oriented minds.)                     >> The real problem is making a cable lightweight and strong       >> enough for the task. While a couple materials with the right weight       >> and strength characteristics exist, there aren't yet ways known to       >> make cables of those materials *nearly* long enough.              >I thought the other problem was that breaking the elevator would be a       >really good way to kill people.               Oh, no, not at all. If a space elevator should be possible at       all, it'll have to be an extremely lightweight fiber from the ground up       to space. Assuming one wants to keep the tension throughout the cable       constant, which seems desireable, the result is the cable growing thicker       with altitude.               The result is the cable near the ground would need to have the       sort of density of graphite. If the cable were snapped and it were to       fall, there'd be almost like dust scattering on the ground. A snapped       cable would tend to have a low terminal velocity. (And since a space       elevator is best-built near the equator, well, look how much of the       equator is densely populated or even anything but ocean.)               Stuff higher up on the cable might be dropped into the Earth's       atmosphere by such a snapping, but payloads being brought up to orbit       would presumably have few people, and they'd most likely be designed to       handle a drop like that anyway since it is an obvious potential failure       result.               I am a fan of the concept, mind you, as I think it's a very       promising and clever idea. But it has got the major problem that we       just don't have a cable material we can produce that's got the strength       to weight ratio. That's not an impossible problem, of course, and to       solve it would indeed be useful outside the space elevator project, but       it is good reason for responsible skepticism.              --        Joseph Nebus       ------------------------------------------------------------------------------              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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