XPost: alt.atheism, alt.paranormal.crop-circles   
   From: twonky@mindspring.com   
      
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   >>>   
   >>>>> Pangur - nonchristian theist   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Didn't like my sig, huh? Did it scare you....?   
   >>>   
   >>> Scare me?  Why should it scare me?   
   >>   
   >> Maybe scare is the wrong word.   
   >   
   > Definitely the wrong word.   
      
   Okay then.....let me put it another way....   
      
   Did it 'test' your reasoning power....?   
   >>   
   >> Did it 'test' your reasoning power....   
   >>   
   >>> You can write/believe anything you wish.  Such does not affect me.   
   >>   
   >> Islam affects everyone...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What is said, is true....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I want to ask, and tell you something. You can respond or not (maybe   
   >>>> email :) I'm not preaching. I'm stating a viable 'theory'. Using   
   >>>> reason, rationality, logic, and common sense.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A philosophy...if you will....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Intelligence comes from the genes of the parents, right? Which   
   >>>> means, it didn't/doesn't evolve....   
   >>>   
   >>> No.   
   >>   
   >> What do you mean....No....?   
   >>   
   >>> Two Downs parents can have "normal" children;  two above-average   
   >>> parents can have a low IQ child.... or two average parents can have a   
   >>> genius whom they haven't a clue how to handle.   
   >>   
   >> That's me..   
   >   
   > Sadly this is usually a worse situation for the child than the parents.   
   > The child often does not learn necessary life lessons and gains an   
   > inflated idea of the worth of his/her intelligence.   
      
   I have a 'Mate in Three" chess problem submitted, and published,   
   in the USCF magazine. "United States Chess Federatiion".   
      
   In the column; "Benko's Bafflers"........   
      
   > Such a child becomes an adult who cannot understand why  -   
   > outside of the artificial hierarchy of the classroom - he/she is   
   > a failure.   
      
   I got straight A's up until 4th grade, when the teacher slapped me   
   for contradicting her. Mrs. Grady..   
      
   I decided I was just going  to pass in my grades until I graduated..   
   Never got straight A's again...graduated with C's & D's.....   
      
   In Sunday school, @ 12 years old, a Nun discussing Genesis 1:26;   
   "Let Us make man in Our image and likeness"   
      
   "Now children, who is the plural?"   
      
   Most raised thier hand, as I did. She picked me. I answered with   
   a question; "God and the aliens....?"   
      
   She waddled up to my desk, and POW...right in the kisser...   
      
   NO! IT CAN'T BE GOD AND THE ALIENS. IT'S THE HOLY   
   TRINITY......!!!   
      
   I sat there rubbing my cheek. Saying under my breath; "Yeah!   
   You'll see."   
   >>   
   >> And where did those genes come from? Apes? The Neanderthal and   
   >> Cro-Magnon interbreeding. Monkeys?   
   >>   
   >> From which do you choose to be evolved, and aquire intelligence.   
   >   
   > Primates had a common ancestor....   
      
   The ones who comprised the Neandertal and Cro-Magnon were   
   genetically engineered in stages of 'intelligence.' Fire and stone tools..   
      
   > from that limb came the branches known   
   > as apes and mankind.  Apes, great and small, are not the direct   
   > ancestors of men but "cousins".   
      
   We were the primitive Homo Sapiens. The zenith of apedom....   
   Fire and stone tools.....   
   >>   
   >>> Intelligence evolved to meet the demands of survival - in the case of   
   >>> humans.   
   >>   
   >> That's too easy an out....Pangur. I'm not going to let you get away   
   >> with that....   
   >>   
   >> Apes can mate forever, and they're not going to get any smarter. The   
   >> Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon could have interbred, and they would still   
   >> be primitives....   
   >   
   > Apes can indeed mate and for all we know mutate...gaining more   
   > intelligence.   
      
   That's bull....   
      
   One doesn't gain intelligence by copulating with the same primitive   
   species.....   
      
   Intelligence 'gains' knowledge. It is either there at birth, or not.....   
      
   No getting around that.....   
      
   > Not very likely as humans are destroying their habitats and them.   
   > As for Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon, we know virtually nothing   
   > about their intelligence or social organization.  Such are difficult to   
   > judge from mere fossils.   
      
   The History Channel taught me about them....   
      
   They eXisted. And were capable of copulating with Cain. That's   
   all I care about. They didn't say that. I reasoned it....   
      
   For Christ Jesus' sake Pagurn, intelligence doesn't evolve....   
   >>   
   >> There had to be a gene to trigger our ability to learn simple, and   
   >> complex tasks. And certainly to have one language, at one time...   
   >   
   > Perhaps.....   
      
   It is wriiten, at the Tower of "Babble".   
      
   Our missing link....Cain.....his genes and the genes of his parents.   
   >>   
   >> The intelligence to find genetics, and technology....   
   >>   
   >> The Almighty is all about genetics. And his hosts, technology.   
   >   
   > Your belief;  not mine.   
      
   Soon to be everyone's. Cause it's true...   
   >>   
   >> Our intelligence learns, it doesn't evolve. The genes to do that had   
   >> to be there, at birth, in order to do that. And to understand that....   
   >   
   > Intelligence has evolved since "Lucy".   
      
   Yeah...stone tools.....   
      
   Lucy could be a joke on mankind. By either man, or some hosts of   
   HaShem. They haven't found any more Lucies...have they....?   
      
   Don't worry. Her genes too, are in you.....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Some lower life and plants and animals evolve. But we were made to   
   >> have eternal life....   
   >> It didn't work out that way, unfortunately......   
   >>>   
   >> <<>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Cain's offspring were intelligent. They built a tent city. Lived in   
   >>>> them. Made and played the harp and the flute. And they Made brass   
   >>>> and iron tools.   
   >>>> Our stance is.....since intelligence comes from the genes of the   
   >>>> parents (in our case, a male parent) our intelligence came from   
   >>>> Cain, and the genes of his parents. And they had commune with the   
   >>>> Almighty God, Creator....and his angels..   
   >>>> All of that, is in us.....   
   >>>> The rest is, His story......   
      
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