XPost: alt.alien.research, alt.alien.visitors, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.paranormal.crop-circles, sci.skeptic   
   From: TheNewJerusalem@Almighty.God   
      
   On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:44:56 GMT, "XtremeHOHA" twonky@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
   >   
   >> >> >> >Reality bites....   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >The truth hurts....   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> How would you know?   
   >> >> >> You're not in touch with either...   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >How would you know....?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> From what you post.   
   >> >   
   >> >You have no common sense then.....   
   >>   
   >> It was common sense that for decades told us that if you got your feet   
   >> wet or stood in a draft you'd catch a cold.   
   >   
   >> Old wives tales...   
      
   >Exactly. Which is what 'common sense' often is.   
      
   Now that I look at it...it's true.....   
      
   >>And 'you' have too add; "we are evolved...."   
      
   >No, the evidence is that the assertion "we are evolved hominids" is   
   >correct.   
      
   No proof we are.....   
      
   More credibility for hybridization with the primitive HOMO Sapiens.   
      
   >> >> >I have the same covenant with the Almighty as Abraham.....   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Yes. An imaginary covenant with an imaginary Elohiym   
   >> >   
   >> >Are you circumcised....? Is the ancestor of the Muslims   
   >> >Ishmael.....?   
   >>   
   >>> Does it matter....?   
   >   
   >> Yes, because circumcision is a covenant of the Almighty with   
   >> Abraham.   
      
   > No, it's an ancient custom also followed by other Mesopotamian peoples   
   > who certainly weren't making a covenant with your deity. And in our   
   > time it's a medical procedure popular in the 20th century and now   
   > going out of fashion.   
      
   So is the Christ and the Almighty.....   
      
   They take the Christ out of Christmas.....   
      
   Do you celebrate it.....?   
      
   >> Abraham first to be circumcised, by himself.   
      
   > The Egyptians were doing it long before Abraham.   
      
   But it's a covenant with Abraham....with the Almighty....   
      
   Genesis 16 is the rise of Allah, and Islam.....   
   Genesis 17 is the rise of the Almighty God, and Judaism....   
      
   Do you deny they eXist and have an origin....?   
      
   >> >Just because you believe the Almighty to be imaginary   
   >> >doesn't make it true.   
   >>   
   >> And just because you believe them real doesn't make them so.   
   >   
   >> "Them....?" The Almighty is one. "And there is none else..."   
      
   > Elohiym is a plural form of El, the ancient word for deities in   
   > Mesopotamia. The He'Pru were first polytheists, then monolatrists, and   
   > only universally monotheists some time after the Pentateuch was   
   > written down in the 7th century BCE.   
      
   I know about the elohyim...   
      
   It is a hierarchy above man's reality.....   
      
   Where Superlative Judges, Magistrates, and angels are deferred Supreme.   
      
   Lucifer is a Superlative angel of HaShem, deferred a Supreme Being..   
      
   And became the Supreme Mighty God, Allah....   
      
   >>Hybridization is written by the Almighty.  Evolution isn't written...   
   >>Never will be.....   
      
   >Just observed.   
      
   eXactly right....in lower animals and plants.....   
      
   >> >>The elitism is where the superlative   
   >> >>angel was deferred supreme God/Being on the earth in the   
   >> >>angel of HaShem. Chillul Ha-Shem. Genesis 16. Had his own   
   >> >>brood in the wild asses born of Ishmael. Wreaking havoc  on   
   >> >>the world today in the name of the deferred a supreme being.   
   >> >>The Supreme God of Islam, Allah.....   
   >>   
   >> >Now prove that contention isn't just the imaginations of ancient fools   
   >> >long dead.   
   >   
   >>There is a supreme God named Allah.   
      
   > Not demonstrated or demonstrable.   
      
   There is, Islam and Judaism....affecting us on a global scale.....   
      
   >>Who has hosts (an army) on   
   >>the earth in the offspring of Hagar's seed through Ishmael. They are   
   >>descended from that seed. A wild ass of a man child. You can see that   
   >>in reality. Do you deny it....?   
      
   > Yes. You're babbling nonsense you can't prove.   
      
   Prove it to yourself.....Genesis 16....   
      
   >>The wild ass Muslims are fuhking primitive   
   >>savages......! Their Lord and leader is a freaken cave dweller.....   
      
   >And you're as big a theological fantasizer as they are, your beliefs   
   >no more credible than theirs.   
      
   I'm a "Creatorist". No worship need apply.....   
      
   Rabid Muslims ARE in your face...and they have an origin....   
   Just like you evolved boneheads......   
      
   >> >> >>I know HaShem just as Abraham knew HaShem who   
   >> >> >>"introduced" Himself (to both of us) as Almighty God....   
   >> >>   
   >> >>> Indeed. A delusion just like his...   
   >> >   
   >> >>You live in the delusion of evolution.   
   >>   
   >>> Evolution is observed and documented.   
   >   
   >> And it's a theory. Not fact.   
      
   >It's a fact. There never has been a theory that evolution occurs   
   >anymore than there is a theory that gravity exists. The various   
   >theories of evolution are about how and why evolution happens.   
   >The fact that it happens is an observation.   
      
   In lower life....not the primitive HOMO Sapiens......   
      
   >> You have no ancestor of the species origin.   
      
   > Your chromosomes match those of a chimpanzee to within 98%   
      
   And 98% bunny rabbit genes, and 99% Neanderthal genes....   
      
   >> You have a hypothetical,   
      
   > No, an observation.   
      
   It will always be that....   
      
   You should observe where Cain knew his wife.....   
      
   > Observation of :   
   >* The nested hierarchy of extant life.   
   >* The nested hierarchy in time of extinct life.   
   >* The discovery that heredity is chemistry DNA (Watson & Crick, 1953).   
   >* Observation of genetic mutation.   
   >* Observation of change in allele frequency in populations over time.   
   >* Observation of natural and artificial selection and their effects.   
   >* Observation of speciation in the wild and in the lab.   
   >* Observation of hybridization in the wild and in the lab.   
   >* The recently discovered nested hierarchy of genomes (including viral   
   >inserts and pseudo-genes).   
   >* Direct manipulation of the genomes.   
      
   Yeah yeah....blah blah blah.....   
      
   It's not that convoluted....   
      
   >> The Elohyim aren't.   
   >   
   >>Allah/al-llah (not his name in the elohyim, but the name of the   
   >>God of Arabian paganism). The Allah of Islam is a superlative   
   >>angel deferred supreme. Allah is supreme because he can't   
   >>be Almighty. Allah is repeater of Creation because he cannot   
   >>be Almighty. He cannot sit on the highest throne in the house,   
   >>the Kingdom of the Almighty, the New Jerusalem. there are   
   >>stipulations to being deferred God II on the earth...   
      
   >Theological maundering, signifying nothing...   
      
   Islam is IN your face, and wants to kill you.....   
   To kill ALL infidels....and they are doing a good job...   
   They said they will fly the Islamic flag over the White House....   
      
      
   [continued in next message]   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)