On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 6:48:04 PM UTC-4, big_foot_...@yahoo.com.br    
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   > Unfortunately, Rogério and Júlio are not to be considered wholly   
   independent sources. If Zappa was in D, it must have been 1962. Julio was   
   categorical when he affirmed that it was a shy mustache-less Zappa   
   [i]before[/i] he was famous.    
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   > Maybe he went in a military plane :speculates: or something else to explain   
   the possible lack of passport. Would a passport be valid for more than five   
   years in 1962?   
      
   In his book: ‘’Frankie & Bobby, Growing up Zappa’’, which contains a   
   lot of details about FZ’s early years, Robert Zappa doesn’t mention   
   anything about a trip to Germany in the early 60’s.   
   Like it has been mentioned previously, FZ was in Europe in 1968 (September /   
   October) but he was already well known and such an event wouldn’t have gone   
   unnoticed.   
      
   DG   
      
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