From: JYOB@aol.com   
      
   On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 6:54:02 PM UTC-4, sevr...@gmail.com wrote:   
   > I can't speak for this group but I was in another group that was incredibly   
   active between 1997 and 2009 before petering down to just a dribble, similar   
   to this group.   
   >    
   > The theory of the collapse there was, the real hardcore fans of the topic   
   had managed to burn through all the obsessive conversation they could stomach   
   in the ten-plus years of activity on the board. After more than a decade of   
   discussing one subject ..   
   . there was little new left to say - even with new releases.   
   >    
   > While new folks were still joining the group, they were either far   
   less-knowledgeable, trolls, or simply not as obsessed.   
   >    
   > Further, the wave of "newbies" faced unkind comments and treatment from the   
   older crowd for their questions - not at all unlike what is seen here (hell,   
   *I* did it with my "google" comment at the top of this thread). Consequently,   
   new folks feel    
   unwelcome and any fresh participation is squashed.   
   >    
   > Finally, those of the older group who did still feel like talking about the   
   subject simply moved to fresher, more active sites. Note that the forum on   
   zappa.com is far more active than this one (though, I must admit I've not been   
   on it in a  long while    
   and that may no longer be the case).   
      
   You mean "like this"....?   
      
   (Reprinted from a 2013 post)   
      
   Went to my colleges' 40th reunion the other night  & ran into a couple   
   of old hippies I used to DJ with at the   
   college radio station. (They still had the long hair with the bald   
   head...the Benjamin Franklin look.)  Naturally, I steered the   
   conversation around to Zappa &   
   found out they were both die hard MOI fans but Stopped at favorable   
   things to   
   say about Frank after 1972 & the JABFLA Lp.  I told them that I was   
   once like   
   them but discovered there was life to Zappa's music after Flo & Eddie   
   hard to believe) & that   
   they should explore it!  But they were INSISTENT in their viewpoint &   
   could not   
   be swayed!  Frank mentions this phenomena in the liner notes of   
   YCDTOSA 5   
   concerning the existence of such people!  Why is this?  Were they just   
   two old   
   fuddy-duddy hippies living in the past (you know, rock music stopped   
   in 1975,   
   that sort of thing) or is this peculiar to Zappa fans/ mystique   
   only?????  I   
   know...   
      
   But...but....I may be agreeing with them now.  Is this a sign of "old age"...?   
      
   thoughts..........   
   comments................   
      
      
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