From: coyo@darkdna.net   
      
   On 7/1/2014 6:59 PM, Coyo wrote:   
   > On 6/30/2014 8:56 AM, §ñühwö£f wrote:   
   >> *Anarchy* is a utopian concept and not applicable to humans at this   
   >> point in their social and intellectual evolution. "Self governance" wont   
   >> work in a population that hasn't agreed to a common goal.   
   >   
   > People can learn.   
   >   
      
   BTW: did you know that Gulags and Concentration Camps are closely   
   related in terms of ideology?   
      
   As bad as Fascism was, Maoism is even worse. Maoist ideology is what   
   ultimately led to the creation of Gulags, and both Fascism and Maoism   
   are based on flavors of Socialism. Most Socialists will deny this, or   
   even claim that Socialism is a form of Anarchism, but it's not. A   
   Socialist society cannot function without a State to enforce it.   
      
   Even under ideal conditions, you basically have to turn everyone into   
   tang. (That's a joke, son, it's a reference to Neon Genesis Evangelion's   
   finale, End of Evangelion.)   
      
   Now Anarchy, on the other hand, is inherently individualist, and since   
   every individual is free to govern him or herself as he or she sees fit,   
   so long as it does not infringe on anyone else (in which case, that   
   person has every right to kick ass and chew bubble gum), it's   
   sustainable even in a semi-educated public. You don't need a   
   perfectly-educated or even responsible public to maintain an Anarchist   
   society.   
      
   If everyone was sane, educated, responsible and self-disciplined, you   
   wouldn't even notice that there was no central government making people   
   pretend they aren't complete monsters. But that's incredibly unlikely to   
   happen, so instead, you remove the restraints, give everyone guns,   
   explosives, aircraft and lots of booze and drugs, and let them destroy   
   themselves and each other. The sane and/or intelligent ones can live   
   comfortably in a tornado or bomb shelter for about 20 years or so. By 40   
   years, things should have quieted down.   
      
   It's not rocket science.   
      
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