From: baloo@ursamundi.org   
      
   On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 9:22:03 AM UTC-5, §ñûhwØ£f wrote:   
   > On 09/02/2015 12:26 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:   
   > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-5, §nühw¤£f wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>> The exposed drive-train and overabundance of exposed moving parts   
   > >>> has proven problematic for my '98 Gary Fisher Wahoo.   
   > >>>   
   > >> So theres a shaft drive bike that I don't know about?   
   > >   
   > > It's a thing that exists, but I was thinking internal gear hub with a   
   > > fully enclosed chaincase, which tends to be an extremely common   
   > > thing   
   > >   
   > Sturmey-Archer makes a 5 speed internal hub now :)   
   > I guess you could do the plastic tub around the chain thing as well.   
   >    
   >    
   > >> A can of WD-40 keeps things rust free up here.   
   > >   
   > > And seized up!  Penetrating oils are meant to break things free and   
   > > remove the gunk so you can then wipe it off and use the correct   
   > > lubricant, but if you're expecting it to keep everything lubricated,   
   > > you're just going to seize it up harder than ever.  The wet weather   
   > > varieties of TriFlo or Finish Line had been my go-to previously, but   
   > > this has proven too messy and insufficient on an exposed drive-train   
   > > given we'll go from the kind of rain Oregon never sees to blowing   
   > > dirt across a post-apocalyptic streetscape in around an afternoon.   
   > > Singer sewing machine oil seems to handle the dry conditions   
   > > sufficiently without being a sopping mess (and isn't that far from   
   > > the varieties of bike oils that are meant for clean and dry   
   > > conditions on an exposed drivetrain, but you do have to use more of   
   > > it since it doesn't really stay put).   
   > >   
   > IMHO,  the 40 works pretty good in snow. I ride untill its too deep to    
   > be reasonable and use studded tires and WD40 is light enough to keep the    
   > water off and not make the chain shift poorly. In the desert I used used    
   > motor oil. Reduce Recycle etc.   
      
   Mostly because it's a water displacer.  In the snow you might try cleaning the   
   drivetrain good and then using a wax-based lubricant (Gulfwax or some other   
   paraffin if all else fails might work, but you'll want something sticky that   
   isn't going to go    
   anywhere).   
      
   > >>>> Heh...then I'd ride my old 1984 Cannondale touring bike with   
   > >>>> racks & other heavy stuff to slow me down :) Trailers rule for   
   > >>>> the heavy stuff, ya gotta admit. And they make a single wheel   
   > >>>> single track model for camping!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Well, until you're on some of the older cycleways in Oregon,   
   > >>> which thanks to a NIMBY factor got a lot of pain in the ass   
   > >>> chicanes that are often too narrow to fit a bicycle by itself   
   > >>> through.  I'm sure the disabled love this as well.  Trailers are   
   > >>> great to some extent, but if you really want to move stuff, it's   
   > >>> time for a freighter trike.  Portland's got some so large that a   
   > >>> new state law had to be passed to allow for green "acceleration"   
   > >>> lights next to brake lights so people behind it could tell that   
   > >>> they were at least attempting to move (to my knowledge, Oregon's   
   > >>> the only state that allows acceleration lights on vehicles and   
   > >>> requires them along with brake lights on freight trikes).   
   > >>>   
   > >> Oregon is weird. I'm surprised they allow trikes on the main   
   > >> streets.   
   > >   
   > > As with every other state, unless otherwise posted, bicycles are   
   > > allowed on every road.   
   > >   
   > As it should be :)   
      
   Oklahoma does get a little weird with it, since they do expect, unless it's   
   also posted as a bicycle route, to obey minimum posted speed limits, but in   
   practice this just plain does not get enforced, as sometimes it's the only   
   practical route and you    
   might not know it has a minimum speed limit until you've been on the road   
   enough miles to pass a speed limit sign.   
      
   > >> Well, they do allow golf carts in lots of places, Arizona for one   
   > >> so I guess its "local culture" :)   
   > >   
   > > Not quite golf carts, but rather "neighborhood electric vehicles."   
   > > There's some overlap between the two, and authorities are generally   
   > > pretty lax about letting golf carts slide anyway.  California and   
   > > Florida also have NEV provisions.  Oklahoma and Louisiana go Tim   
   > > Allen with it and will fully register a "kei" vehicle.  At least in   
   > > areas.  Turns out people who actually have a serious need for a   
   > > pickup truck that can tow a building would rather leave the dualie at   
   > > the farm when they're not towing a livestock trailer, and instead go   
   > > hit the feed store and do grocery runs in a Daihatsu Hijet or a   
   > > Mitsubishi Minicab...   
   > >   
   > Those mini-trucks are awesome. I almost got one after I sold my diesel.    
   > Arizona has two retirement communities where golf carts are given    
   > special consideration: Sun city & Green Valley. They have "golf cart    
   > lanes". Heh.   
      
   Yeah, I've heard of those.   
      
   > Oh, what do you think of "Mr. Robot" series?   
      
   Never heard of that, though!   
      
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