From: tom@0.0.0.0   
      
   On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:24:08 -0800 (PST)   
   laith.assaf2@gmail.com wrote:   
      
   > On Wednesday, May 25, 1994 at 1:58:15 AM UTC+4, NOEL TOMINACK, ACS   
   > 24-HOUR LAB wrote:   
   > > I have been lurking here since the fall of 1991, and only posted   
   > > rarely in the past 3 years to avoid problems. But there are 2   
   > > things that have prompted me to finally speak my mind here:  The   
   > > first has been this thread about what is right/wrong with furrydom,   
   > > and the second was attending a small furry party at the home of   
   > > Peter Stoller this past weekend.   
   > >   
   > > 	I've read both Lance Rund's and Rich Chandler's versions of   
   > > the history of furry fandom.  Being a lifelong Maryland resident, I   
   > > know from personal expereince that Chandler's history is more   
   > > accurate--and true.  I have been saying for 6 years now that there   
   > > *is* a differece between the furries on the East and West coasts,   
   > > and been flamed severely for that. Its nice to get a little   
   > > validation, especially when its unexpected. [One thing I will add   
   > > to Chandler's history, is that on the East Coast, several small   
   > > furry "core groups" formed in certain cities, usually via anime   
   > > meetings and groups.  Unfortunately, this did not happen in   
   > > Maryland and it looks like I am the only active fur fan left since   
   > > Vicky Wyman moved to Virginia]   
   > >   
   > > 	From my own observations, furry fandom never quite caught   
   > > on here as it did out west.  I (as well as Ray Rooney and Kevin   
   > > Carroll) helped set up furry paries at Balticon and Philcon, and I   
   > > have gotten people interested in what is out there, some of them   
   > > even stayed interested.   
   > >   
   > > 	Now I am not sure about Lance's expereinces, but I have   
   > > truely been an outsider/outcast in furry fandom for reasons way too   
   > > numerous to mention here.  In fact, Edd Vick once referred to me as   
   > > a "Furvert Expatriate" and I kind of liked the term so I kept it.   
   > > Even though I have been through the wringer and am not exactly on   
   > > the 'A' list of fur fans--I still enjoy the fanzines and meeting   
   > > people at the cons.  Yeah, I am bitter, outspoken, and have more   
   > > attitude than tact--but I wouldn't give up the freindships and the   
   > > fun I have had despite all that.   
   > >   
   > > 	Actually, I see the emergence of two types of fur fans, the   
   > > "old school" fur fans--the ones who have been fur fans for many   
   > > years, and the new one--the people who discovered furrydom through   
   > > FurryMuck and gifs on the net.  I've watched the two interact at   
   > > Philcon and at Stoller's furry party, and noticed they keep to   
   > > their own groups.  Perhaps this is what Lance was trying to get at   
   > > with his lost sense of community.   
   > >   
   > > 	But all this influx of FurryMuckers is a *good* thing!  I   
   > > remeber at Philcons in the past where there were maybe 20 or so fur   
   > > fans who came to the con just for the furry stuff.  At the 1993   
   > > con--we took up an entire floor!  (There should be a lesson in that   
   > > for Balticon :/ ).  Sure, furry fandom is no longer the tight-knit   
   > > little core groups that I remember, now there are a lot more people   
   > > and an expanding market!  I only hope the Old School fur fans can   
   > > see that becuse of the Internet that this influx will make us more   
   > > respectable, and that we can all become one big group.   
   > >   
   > > 	The Internet is also bridging gaps between the West Coast   
   > > and the rest of the country, now there are fur fans all over the   
   > > country and they communicate quickly and easily.  Its a shame all   
   > > that debate over scanning and gifs started up.  I once forsaw   
   > > somone being able to assemble a furry fanzine with scans and   
   > > desktop publishing--and then Emailing the finish product   
   > > out--paperless fanzines.  Could the Old School out West be   
   > > concerned they are losing some of their prestige becuase of this?   
   > >   
   > > 	Anyway, its nice to see some discussion going on.  Next   
   > > post I will rant and rave a little about various things:  the   
   > > floodgates have been opened.   
   > >   
   > > __________________________________________   
   > > * Noel J. Tominack (noel@umbc2.umbc.edu)  |   
   > > * University of Maryland Baltimore County |   
   > > * All opinions are mine mine mine! 	  |   
   > > * ________________________________________|   
   >   
   > Hey my dude, can you hook me up with their history, I want to read it.   
      
   What Fanzines? Can you link to one? I'm not sure I've seen these.   
      
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