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|    charles robbins to All    |
|    Murders of Dave Klinkler and Gary E.    |
|    14 Jan 21 07:04:46    |
      From: charlesrobbins26@gmail.com              Here is what I was able to learn from talking to a woman called "Little Mary"       regarding The Murder of Dave and Gary.       Two kids, yes kids, under 18 wanted to know what it felt like to kill       somebody. They ran across Dave and Gary and       decided they would be the people they would kill. It was a random bit of       incredible cruelty and stupidity.              Little Mary, whom I met and had started to become friends with, and I were       talking one time and the subject of a friend       of mine, Dave being murdered one weekend, followed the next weekend by my       Mother's death and the next weekend       with my Grandmother's death. I was telling her about where it happened and she       interrupted me to tell me that the       two killers had come to her apartment after the killing was done. One of the       two had shot himself, she told me, and       she helped him take care of the wound. I was speechless. She thought that what       she had done was ok. I think she       must have gathered that I was not impressed at all with her outlook about the       murder of one of the nicest men I       have ever known in my life.              She proceeded to tell me that one of the two had told on himself when he was       arrested for an unrelated crime in       order to turn over as a witness against the other killer. I believed her and       that was that. One night many years later       I decided to see who the two were and searched for the arrest records and       court hearings about the crime. There       have never been any arrests in this crime from what I can tell. This means       that it is time for the police to talk to       Little Mary, but, I have no idea what her real name is. I do know that she was       very popular with the East County       drug crowd. Yes, make of that what you will, I have no secrets regarding my       drug usage in the past and/or the present.              I sent a message to crime stoppers regarding what I know about this event.       Still nothing as far as I can tell, so, now       I am going to contact the El Cajon police dept and set the record straight as       far as I can anyway. I read the account       of the night it happened, and it said that witnesses saw two males running       from the scene, one of them might have       been injured. That right there told me that Little Mary had told me the truth       as far as one of them having shot       himself. I now wonder why the police were not able to follow the blood trail       to the apartment where Little Mary lived.              I will do whatever it takes to make the police listen to what I have to say.       Little Mary must have been known to the       local police then by her street name, which is the name that I know her by. If       she is still alive it should be easy to       find her. This has been bugging me for quite some time now. Street people, as       I am sure you know, do not like       people who talk to the police about criminal actions. Screw it, I am 62, have       lived long enough and I will deal       with what comes of this. Wrong is wrong. Taking a man's life simply to know       what killing feels like, is bullshit.       They should have joined the Marines or something. The govt would love two more       willing killers to join their army.              Dave was a great guy with a heart of gold. He opened his door to me at a time       in my life when I was lost and       searching for myself. At the time that he was killed, I was going through the       loss of my Mother and       Grandmother and I moved to Las Vegas when my Brother came down and picked me       up to take me with       him to find work in Las Vegas and to get clean. In one year's time I went from       being 6' tall and weighing 160       pounds to 215 pounds. I was 35 and finally found out what I was supposed to       weigh. I was healthy, and       felt lucky to still be alive. I was working security in a little truck stop       casino/hotel called the King-8.              I am getting off topic here, so I will get back on topic. I will post here as       soon as I have anything to       report as far as this subject goes. I do not want Z to become emotionally       distraught so I have not notified       her personally about what I discovered. I think it would be best for her to       hear it from detectives when       they get this information and start to look for Little Mary and her       information regarding that night.       I think accessory to murder, after the fact, will be plenty of incentive for       her to cooperate and tell what       she knows. I am pretty sure that I will have to appear in court, if it goes       that far, and I will do so,       gladly, in order for this to be put to rest.              The two assholes, as yet unknown to me, will finally face the music. The debt       of gratitude I owe to       Dave and Z will be repaid. I know some of you will think I should have done       this long ago.       Well, I did reach out to crimestoppers. They never got back to me. Remember,       too, that I was under       the impression, for years, that the two had already been arrested and dealt       with. Please do not think       too harshly of me, I truly thought this was already a closed case. It has been       about four years       since I found out the two killers were not arrested and that the person who       had told me they had been       was a damned liar. She will also get her piece of th edebt that needs to be       paid for this heinous,       heartless and remorseless crime.              If there is a Hell, there must be a very special place in it for people who       kill simply for a thrill.       Obviously, my name and e-mail address is available here. That should give some       assurance       that I am serious about this. I am very nervous about this as well. My Father       has told me that       the police usually treat people who bring information forward in a case like       this as a suspect.       Fair enough, that is their job. I can stand feeling nervous for a while. When       thus is done, I will       feel like I have gained justice for Dave, and Gary, even though I didn't       really know Gary at all.              I will send a copy of this message to the El Cajon police as part of my effort       to let them       know I am serious about what I am saying.              Thank you for listening.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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