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   charles robbins to All   
   Murders of Dave Klinkler and Gary E.   
   14 Jan 21 07:04:46   
   
   From: charlesrobbins26@gmail.com   
      
   Here is what I was able to learn from talking to a woman called "Little Mary"   
   regarding The Murder of Dave and Gary.   
   Two kids, yes kids, under 18 wanted to know what it felt like to kill   
   somebody. They ran across Dave and Gary and   
   decided they would be the people they would kill. It was a random bit of   
   incredible cruelty and stupidity.   
      
   Little Mary, whom I met and had started to become friends with, and I were   
   talking one time and the subject of a friend   
   of mine, Dave being murdered one weekend, followed the next weekend by my   
   Mother's death and the next weekend   
   with my Grandmother's death. I was telling her about where it happened and she   
   interrupted me to tell me that the   
   two killers had come to her apartment after the killing was done. One of the   
   two had shot himself, she told me, and   
   she helped him take care of the wound. I was speechless. She thought that what   
   she had done was ok. I think she   
   must have gathered that I was not impressed at all with her outlook about the   
   murder of one of the nicest men I   
   have ever known in my life.   
      
   She proceeded to tell me that one of the two had told on himself when he was   
   arrested for an unrelated crime in   
   order to turn over as a witness against the other killer. I believed her and   
   that was that. One night many years later   
   I decided to see who the two were and searched for the arrest records and   
   court hearings about the crime. There   
   have never been any arrests in this crime from what I can tell. This means   
   that it is time for the police to talk to   
   Little Mary, but, I have no idea what her real name is. I do know that she was   
   very popular with the East County   
   drug crowd. Yes, make of that what you will, I have no secrets regarding my   
   drug usage in the past and/or the present.   
      
   I sent a message to crime stoppers regarding what I know about this event.   
   Still nothing as far as I can tell, so, now   
   I am going to contact the El Cajon police dept and set the record straight as   
   far as I can anyway. I read the account   
   of the night it happened, and it said that witnesses saw two males running   
   from the scene, one of them might have   
   been injured. That right there told me that Little Mary had told me the truth   
   as far as one of them having shot   
   himself. I now wonder why the police were not able to follow the blood trail   
   to the apartment where Little Mary lived.   
      
   I will do whatever it takes to make the police listen to what I have to say.   
   Little Mary must have been known to the   
   local police then by her street name, which is the name that I know her by. If   
   she is still alive it should be easy to   
   find her. This has been bugging me for quite some time now. Street people, as   
   I am sure you know, do not like   
   people who talk to the police about criminal actions. Screw it, I am 62, have   
   lived long enough and I will deal   
   with what comes of this. Wrong is wrong. Taking a man's life simply to know   
   what killing feels like, is bullshit.   
   They should have joined the Marines or something. The govt would love two more   
   willing killers to join their army.   
      
   Dave was a great guy with a heart of gold. He opened his door to me at a time   
   in my life when I was lost and   
   searching for myself. At the time that he was killed, I was going through the   
   loss of my Mother and   
   Grandmother and I moved to Las Vegas when my Brother came down and picked me   
   up to take me with   
   him to find work in Las Vegas and to get clean. In one year's time I went from   
   being 6' tall and weighing 160   
   pounds to 215 pounds. I was 35 and finally found out what I was supposed to   
   weigh. I was healthy, and   
   felt lucky to still be alive. I was working security in a little truck stop   
   casino/hotel called the King-8.   
      
   I am getting off topic here, so I will get back on topic. I will post here as   
   soon as I have anything to   
   report as far as this subject goes. I do not want Z to become emotionally   
   distraught so I have not notified   
   her personally about what I discovered. I think it would be best for her to   
   hear it from detectives when   
   they get this information and start to look for Little Mary and her   
   information regarding that night.   
   I think accessory to murder, after the fact, will be plenty of incentive for   
   her to cooperate and tell what   
   she knows. I am pretty sure that I will have to appear in court, if it goes   
   that far, and I will do so,   
   gladly, in order for this to be put to rest.   
      
   The two assholes, as yet unknown to me, will finally face the music. The debt   
   of gratitude I owe to   
   Dave and Z will be repaid. I know some of you will think I should have done   
   this long ago.   
   Well, I did reach out to crimestoppers. They never got back to me. Remember,   
   too, that I was under   
   the impression, for years, that the two had already been arrested and dealt   
   with. Please do not think   
   too harshly of me, I truly thought this was already a closed case. It has been   
   about four years   
   since I found out the two killers were not arrested and that the person who   
   had told me they had been   
   was a damned liar. She will also get her piece of th edebt that needs to be   
   paid for this heinous,   
   heartless and remorseless crime.   
      
   If there is a Hell, there must be a very special place in it for people who   
   kill simply for a thrill.   
   Obviously, my name and e-mail address is available here. That should give some   
   assurance   
   that I am serious about this. I am very nervous about this as well. My Father   
   has told me that   
   the police usually treat people who bring information forward in a case like   
   this as a suspect.   
   Fair enough, that is their job. I can stand feeling nervous for a while. When   
   thus is done, I will   
   feel like I have gained justice for Dave, and Gary, even though I didn't   
   really know Gary at all.   
      
   I will send a copy of this message to the El Cajon police as part of my effort   
   to let them   
   know I am serious about what I am saying.   
      
   Thank you for listening.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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