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   "NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE FORBIDS TITHES EV   
   17 Nov 23 17:42:14   
   
   From: theadvancedmarketinggroup@gmail.com   
      
   "NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE FORBIDS TITHES EVER" SOMEONE CLAIMS   
      
   His exact statement is as follows...   
      
   "The Bible is very clear that tithes belong to the Lord, right on the Old   
   Testament. After that there is no verse in the Bible that forbids tithes ever,   
   Old and New Testament."   
      
   ANSWER...   
      
   He is correct; nothing actually "forbids tithing" in the New Testament because   
   nothing commands tithing in the New Testament in the first place. Those EXACT   
   WORDS; "I, GOD, FORBID TITHING" won't be found in the New Testament, they   
   don't have to be.   
      
   God has no need to "forbid tithing" in the New Testament because...   
      
   1. God never commanded Gentiles (non Jews) to tithe in the first place. Only   
   the Nation of Israel were commanded to pay tithes, and it was a NATIONAL   
   REQUIRMENT, not an individual requirement. The tithe came from farms and   
   ranches of the promise land of    
   Israel, from agricultural increase only, not from anyone's personal income.    
      
   2. God does not have to "forbid tithing," but God did clearly put an end to   
   tithing. Since He put an end to tithing, that is the same as "forbidding   
   tithing" simply because why would you want to be involved in something God has   
   put an end to? If you are    
   wise, you don't want to be involved.   
      
   3. Neither does the Old Testament command tithing except to the Nation of   
   Israel, NOT TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH. Nothing forbids you from giving every   
   dime you have to a church either; but would it be wise to do so? No, it would   
   not. You can't out give    
   God, we are often told. True, but you can give foolishly;   
      
   Proverbs 22:16 - "Whoever oppresses the poor to increase his own wealth, or   
   gives to the rich, will only come to poverty."   
      
   4. Would it be wise to continue something, tithing, God has ended in the New   
   Covenant? No, in fact it wouldn't be, not at all. God ended tithing; why   
   continue it? Only a fool would continue doing something God has ended. ONLY A   
   FOOL WOULD NEED GOD TO    
   FORBID HIM TO DO SOMETHING GOD HAS CERTAINLY PUT AN END TO. We must be wiser   
   than that!   
      
   Also, you won't find anything in the New Testament that actually FORBIDS the   
   sacrificing of animals for sin, but again, the New Testament does not require   
   such an activity to be done because Jesus is our FINAL sacrifice for sin (see;   
   Hebrews chapter 10).   
      
   5. He is making a foolish claim and preaching from silence because of his lack   
   of knowledge of the New Covenant. Again; No, God does not actually "forbid   
   tithing" because there is no need to forbid what has clearly been ended. A   
   wise person will simply    
   got get involved in something God has ended,   
      
   6. TITHING IS NOT LITERILY "FORBIDEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT," BUT IT IS ENDED IN   
   THE NEW TESTAMENT...   
      
   The New Testament DOES IN FACT PUT AN END TO TITHING;   
      
   HEBREWS CHAPTER SEVEN...   
      
   What is DISANNULLED? What is WEAK? What is UNPROFITABLE? These three...   
      
   1. The Levitical Priesthood (which could bring perfection [salvation] TO NO   
   ONE, Hebrews 7:11).   
      
   2. The Law of Moses relative to New Testament Christians who are NOT UNDER THE   
   LAW (Romans 6:14, Acts 15:24).   
      
   3. Tithing, which is of the law of Moses (Hebrews 7:5, Numbers 18:21-24,   
   Matthew 23:23).   
      
   In Hebrews Chapter Seven tithing is mentioned 7 times, verses number; 2, 4, 5,   
   6, 8, 9 and 9 again, focusing CLEARLY ON TITHING, and while proving the   
   superiority of Christ's priesthood, ALSO places tithing (along with the rest   
   of the law of Moses) in a    
   position of INFERIORITY and declares...   
      
   ALL THREE ARE WEAK, ALL THREE ARE UNPROFITABLE, AND ALL THREE ARE DISANNULLED   
   (CANCELED)...INCLUDING TITHING.   
      
   "For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the   
   weakness and unprofitableness thereof." - Hebrews 7:18   
      
   >>> ALSO; a previous post of mine from another group...   
      
   ANSWERING EMPTY QUESTIONS   
   "Is it a sin to tithe?" "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?" "Where does   
   the Bible tell us to stop tithing."   
      
   You people who ask and post such phrases and questions trying to prove that a   
   Christian must tithe; is that the best you can do? Is that the extent of your   
   argument in favor of "Christian tithing?" Can't you do better in your quest to   
   tell us all about    
   how a Christian is required to hand over ten percent of their monetary income,   
   income money, to a pastor, other minister or a church? Obviously you can't or   
   you would be.   
      
   In reality you are NOT asking a legitimate honest question of which you are   
   seeking an honest answer for, you are asking your question THINKING you have   
   asked a question we cannot answer, and by not being able to answer, you have   
   "proven" that a    
   Christian must tithe. Sadly, you are deeply mistaken.   
      
   So, here are your answers...   
      
   >> "Is it a sin to tithe?"   
      
   YES, if you are NOT tithing in obedience to God's word. In God's word there   
   exists NOT ONE VERSE instructing anyone to tithe money to any church, pastor   
   or any minister, not in the Old or New Testament. Such a command from God   
   simply does not exist    
   anywhere in the Bible. If you think it does, feel free to show us. Tithing   
   money is in fact a sin because money from income is NOT how God describes the   
   tithe. God describes the tithe, NOT MEN. God's tithe consists of fruits,   
   vegetables and clean animals    
   from the Promise Land, the tithe was agricultural in composition, never   
   monetary. There is no such thing as tithing money in God's word. Again; if you   
   believe there is, feel free to show us the scripture verse to prove your claim.   
      
   Therefore; what is sin? THIS... 1 John 3:4 - "Whosoever committeth sin   
   transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So, YES,   
   it is a sin to tithe if you are NOT tithing God's way, and you who are   
   "tithing money" are NOT doing it    
   God's way, you are doing it MAN'S WAY...   
      
   Matthew 15:6 - He need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your   
   tradition you have made void the word of God."   
      
   >> "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?"   
      
      
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