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|    17 Nov 23 19:46:11    |
      From: theadvancedmarketinggroup@gmail.com              "NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE FORBIDS TITHES EVER" SOMEONE CLAIMS               His exact statement is as follows...               "The Bible is very clear that tithes belong to the Lord, right on the Old       Testament. After that there is no verse in the Bible that forbids tithes       ever, Old and New Testament."               ANSWER...               He is correct; nothing actually "forbids tithing" in the New Testament        because nothing commands tithing in the New Testament in the first place.       Those EXACT WORDS; "I, GOD, FORBID TITHING" won't be found in the New       Testament, they don't have to be.               God has no need to "forbid tithing" in the New Testament because...               1. God never commanded Gentiles (non Jews) to tithe in the first place. Only       the Nation of Israel were commanded to pay tithes, and it was a NATIONAL       REQUIREMENT, not an individual requirement. The tithe came from farms and       ranches of the promise land        of Israel, from agricultural increase only, not from anyone's personal       income.                2. God does not have to "forbid tithing," but God did clearly put an end to       tithing. Since He put an end to tithing, that is the same as "forbidding       tithing" simply because why would you want to be involved in something God       has put an end to? If you        are wise, you don't want to be involved.               3. Neither does the Old Testament command tithing except to the Nation of       Israel, NOT TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH. Nothing forbids you from giving       every dime you have to a church either; but would it be wise to do so? No, it       would not. You can't out        give God, we are often told. True, but you can give foolishly;               Proverbs 22:16 - "Whoever oppresses the poor to increase his own wealth, or       gives to the rich, will only come to poverty."               4. Would it be wise to continue something, tithing, God has ended in the New       Covenant? No, in fact it wouldn't be, not at all. God ended tithing; why       continue it? Only a fool would continue doing something God has ended. ONLY A       FOOL WOULD NEED GOD TO        FORBID HIM TO DO SOMETHING GOD HAS CERTAINLY PUT AN END TO. We must be wiser       than that!               Also, you won't find anything in the New Testament that actually FORBIDS the       sacrificing of animals for sin, but again, the New Testament does not require       such an activity to be done because Jesus is our FINAL sacrifice for sin       (see; Hebrews chapter        10).               5. He is making a foolish claim and preaching from silence because of his       lack of knowledge of the New Covenant. Again; No, God does not actually       "forbid tithing" because there is no need to forbid what has clearly been       ended. A wise person will        simply NOT get involved in something God has ended.               6. TITHING IS NOT LITERATELY "FORBIDDEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT," BUT IT IS ENDED       IN THE NEW TESTAMENT...               The New Testament DOES IN FACT PUT AN END TO TITHING;               HEBREWS CHAPTER SEVEN...               What is DISANNULLED? What is WEAK? What is UNPROFITABLE? These three...               1. The Levitical Priesthood (which could bring perfection [salvation] TO NO       ONE, Hebrews 7:11).               2. The Law of Moses relative to New Testament Christians who are NOT UNDER THE       LAW (Romans 6:14, Acts 15:24).               3. Tithing, which is of the law of Moses (Hebrews 7:5, Numbers 18:21-24,       Matthew 23:23).               In Hebrews Chapter Seven tithing is mentioned 7 times, verses number; 2, 4,       5, 6, 8, 9 and 9 again, focusing CLEARLY ON TITHING, and while proving the       superiority of Christ's priesthood, ALSO places tithing (along with the rest       of the law of Moses) in        a position of INFERIORITY and declares...               ALL THREE ARE WEAK, ALL THREE ARE UNPROFITABLE, AND ALL THREE ARE DISANNULLED       (CANCELED)...INCLUDING TITHING.               "For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the       weakness and unprofitableness thereof." - Hebrews 7:18               >>> ALSO; a previous post of mine from another group...               ANSWERING EMPTY QUESTIONS       "Is it a sin to tithe?" "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?" "Where does       the Bible tell us to stop tithing."               You people who ask and post such phrases and questions trying to prove that a       Christian must tithe; is that the best you can do? Is that the extent of your       argument in favor of "Christian tithing?" Can't you do better in your quest       to tell us all        about how a Christian is required to hand over ten percent of their monetary       income, income money, to a pastor, other minister or a church? Obviously you       can't or you would be.               In reality you are NOT asking a legitimate honest question of which you are       seeking an honest answer for, you are asking your question THINKING you have       asked a question we cannot answer, and by not being able to answer, you have       "proven" that a        Christian must tithe. Sadly, you are deeply mistaken.               So, here are your answers...               >> "Is it a sin to tithe?"               YES, if you are NOT tithing in obedience to God's word. In God's word there       exists NOT ONE VERSE instructing anyone to tithe money to any church, pastor       or any minister, not in the Old or New Testament. Such a command from God       simply does not exist        anywhere in the Bible. If you think it does, feel free to show us. Tithing       money is in fact a sin because money from income is NOT how God describes the       tithe. God describes the tithe, NOT MEN. God's tithe consists of fruits,       vegetables and clean        animals from the Promise Land, the tithe was agricultural in composition,       never monetary. There is no such thing as tithing money in God's word. Again;       if you believe there is, feel free to show us the scripture verse to prove       your claim.               Therefore; what is sin? THIS... 1 John 3:4 - "Whosoever committeth sin        transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So,       YES, it is a sin to tithe if you are NOT tithing God's way, and you who are       "tithing money" are NOT doing        it God's way, you are doing it MAN'S WAY...               Matthew 15:6 - He need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your       tradition you have made void the word of God."               >> "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?"                      [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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