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   "NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE FORBIDS TITHES EV   
   17 Nov 23 19:46:11   
   
   From: theadvancedmarketinggroup@gmail.com   
      
   "NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE FORBIDS TITHES EVER" SOMEONE CLAIMS   
       
   His exact statement is as follows...   
       
   "The Bible is very clear that tithes belong to the Lord, right on the  Old   
   Testament. After that there is no verse in the Bible that forbids  tithes   
   ever, Old and New Testament."   
       
   ANSWER...   
       
   He is correct; nothing actually "forbids tithing" in the New Testament    
   because nothing commands tithing in the New Testament in the first  place.   
   Those EXACT WORDS; "I, GOD, FORBID TITHING" won't be found in the  New   
   Testament, they don't have to be.   
       
   God has no need to "forbid tithing" in the New Testament because...   
       
   1. God never commanded Gentiles (non Jews) to tithe in the first place.  Only   
   the Nation of Israel were commanded to pay tithes, and it was a  NATIONAL   
   REQUIREMENT, not an individual requirement. The tithe came from  farms and   
   ranches of the promise land    
   of Israel, from agricultural  increase only, not from anyone's personal   
   income.    
       
   2. God does not have to "forbid tithing," but God did clearly put an end  to   
   tithing. Since He put an end to tithing, that is the same as  "forbidding   
   tithing" simply because why would you want to be involved in  something God   
   has put an end to? If you    
   are wise, you don't want to be  involved.   
       
   3. Neither does the Old Testament command tithing except to the Nation  of   
   Israel, NOT TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH. Nothing forbids you from  giving   
   every dime you have to a church either; but would it be wise to  do so? No, it   
   would not. You can't out    
   give God, we are often told.  True, but you can give foolishly;   
       
   Proverbs 22:16 - "Whoever oppresses the poor to increase his own wealth, or   
   gives to the rich, will only come to poverty."   
       
   4. Would it be wise to continue something, tithing, God has ended in the  New   
   Covenant? No, in fact it wouldn't be, not at all. God ended  tithing; why   
   continue it? Only a fool would continue doing something God  has ended. ONLY A   
   FOOL WOULD NEED GOD TO    
   FORBID HIM TO DO SOMETHING GOD  HAS CERTAINLY PUT AN END TO. We must be wiser   
   than that!   
       
   Also, you won't find anything in the New Testament that actually FORBIDS  the   
   sacrificing of animals for sin, but again, the New Testament does  not require   
   such an activity to be done because Jesus is our FINAL  sacrifice for sin   
   (see; Hebrews chapter    
   10).   
       
   5. He is making a foolish claim and preaching from silence because of  his   
   lack of knowledge of the New Covenant. Again; No, God does not  actually   
   "forbid tithing" because there is no need to forbid what has  clearly been   
   ended. A wise person will    
   simply NOT get involved in  something God has ended.   
       
   6. TITHING IS NOT LITERATELY "FORBIDDEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT," BUT IT IS ENDED   
   IN THE NEW TESTAMENT...   
       
   The New Testament DOES IN FACT PUT AN END TO TITHING;   
       
   HEBREWS CHAPTER SEVEN...   
       
   What is DISANNULLED? What is WEAK? What is UNPROFITABLE? These three...   
       
   1. The Levitical Priesthood (which could bring perfection [salvation] TO NO   
   ONE, Hebrews 7:11).   
       
   2. The Law of Moses relative to New Testament Christians who are NOT UNDER THE   
   LAW (Romans 6:14, Acts 15:24).   
       
   3. Tithing, which is of the law of Moses (Hebrews 7:5, Numbers 18:21-24,   
   Matthew 23:23).   
       
   In Hebrews Chapter Seven tithing is mentioned 7 times, verses number; 2,  4,   
   5, 6, 8, 9 and 9 again, focusing CLEARLY ON TITHING, and while  proving the   
   superiority of Christ's priesthood, ALSO places tithing  (along with the rest   
   of the law of Moses) in    
   a position of INFERIORITY  and declares...   
       
   ALL THREE ARE WEAK, ALL THREE ARE UNPROFITABLE, AND ALL THREE ARE DISANNULLED   
   (CANCELED)...INCLUDING TITHING.   
       
   "For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for  the   
   weakness and unprofitableness thereof." - Hebrews 7:18   
       
   >>> ALSO; a previous post of mine from another group...   
       
   ANSWERING EMPTY QUESTIONS   
   "Is it a sin to tithe?" "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?" "Where does   
   the Bible tell us to stop tithing."   
       
   You people who ask and post such phrases and questions trying to prove  that a   
   Christian must tithe; is that the best you can do? Is that the  extent of your   
   argument in favor of "Christian tithing?" Can't you do  better in your quest   
   to tell us all    
   about how a Christian is required to  hand over ten percent of their monetary   
   income, income money, to a  pastor, other minister or a church? Obviously you   
   can't or you would be.   
       
   In reality you are NOT asking a legitimate honest question of which you  are   
   seeking an honest answer for, you are asking your question THINKING  you have   
   asked a question we cannot answer, and by not being able to  answer, you have   
   "proven" that a    
   Christian must tithe. Sadly, you are  deeply mistaken.   
       
   So, here are your answers...   
       
   >> "Is it a sin to tithe?"   
       
   YES, if you are NOT tithing in obedience to God's word. In God's word  there   
   exists NOT ONE VERSE instructing anyone to tithe money to any  church, pastor   
   or any minister, not in the Old or New Testament. Such a  command from God   
   simply does not exist    
   anywhere in the Bible. If you  think it does, feel free to show us. Tithing   
   money is in fact a sin  because money from income is NOT how God describes the   
   tithe. God  describes the tithe, NOT MEN. God's tithe consists of fruits,   
   vegetables  and clean    
   animals from the Promise Land, the tithe was agricultural in  composition,   
   never monetary. There is no such thing as tithing money in  God's word. Again;   
   if you believe there is, feel free to show us the  scripture verse to prove   
   your claim.   
       
   Therefore; what is sin? THIS... 1 John 3:4 - "Whosoever committeth sin    
   transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."  So,   
   YES, it is a sin to tithe if you are NOT tithing God's way, and you  who are   
   "tithing money" are NOT doing    
   it God's way, you are doing it  MAN'S WAY...   
       
   Matthew 15:6 - He need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your   
   tradition you have made void the word of God."   
       
   >> "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?"   
       
      
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