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|    No One Special to your free will does not exist. Yet     |
|    T.U.L.I.P. - THE TOTAL DEPRAVITY OF CALV    |
|    08 Jan 24 20:26:00    |
      From: theadvancedmarketinggroup@gmail.com              T.U.L.I.P. - THE TOTAL DEPRAVITY OF CALVINISM; an error filled false gospel...              >> T - "Total Depravity;"              Calvinist claim that no one can act in faith until they're born again, yet       people did; see Hebrews chapter 11 (not to mention the whole Old Testament       filled with records of non-born again people acting in faith contrary to       Calvinist false doctrine).        Jesus strongly refutes the calvinist false doctrine of "total depravity" in       this scripture as clear as it as it can be...              "Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite       indeed, in whom is no guile!" - John 1:47 KJV              Or...              "Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward Him, and said of him, “Behold, an       Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!" - John 1:47 NKJV              NOTE: Nathanael was a man of NO guile, NO deceit; he was NOT "totally       depraved." A person without guile is a person of innocence, honest intent, and       pure motives, whose life reflects the simple practice of conforming his daily       actions to principles of        integrity.              Also, David was called "A man after God's own heart." "The Lord has sought for       Himself a man after His own heart” (1 Sam. 13:14). The second time was by       the Apostle Paul who recounted Israel's history, “I have found David the son       of Jesse, a man        after My own heart, who will do all My will” (Ac. 13:22).              >> U - "Unconditional Election;"               Calvinists claim that God chose you, and your choice means nothing, God       couldn't care less what you chose, (so why choose to receive Jesus Christ as       your savior?)...to Calvinists, your free will does not exist. Yet God's word       says; "I call heaven and        earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death,       blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may       live..." - Deuteronomy 30:19...and..."If any man will do his will, he shall       know of the doctrine,        whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." - John 7:17              >> L - "Limited Atonement;"              Calvinists claim that Jesus only died for certain people, yet the Bible says       He died for all people; Hebrews 2:9 "Jesus taste death for everyone," and in 1       John the Bible says that Jesus was the propitiation "for the whole world" - 1       John 2:2, and God        calls all people to repent; 2 Peter 3:9 - "The Lord is not slack concerning       His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not       willing that any should perish but that ALL should come to repentance."              Additionally; Luke 2:10-12 - "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for,       behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to ALL PEOPLE.       For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ       the Lord. And this shall        be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying       in a manger." And; Romans 11:32-33 - "For God hath concluded them ALL in       unbelief, that he might have mercy upon ALL."              Jesus didn't pay for individual sins (a little blood or death for this one, a       little blood and death for that one), He paid for ALL SINS OF MANKIND ALL AT       THE SAME TIME WITH HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS. If a person rejects his atoning       work at the cross they        will spend eternity in hell. Jesus either paid for them all or He paid for       none. In fact He paid for them ALL.               1Tim 4:10: "... we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men,       specially of those that believe." Heb 4:2: "For unto us was the gospel       preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not       being mixed with faith in        them that heard it."              >> I - "Irresistible Grace;"              Calvinists claim that God's grace cannot be resisted. Yet the Bible says God       has graciously given ALL people the ability to receive or reject Him. Sadly,       many do reject God's grace, which is NOT "irresistible grace" as Calvinist's       claim; God's word says;        "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always RESIST the       Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you." - Acts 7:51. Additionally; "O       Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who       are sent to it! How often        would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under       her wings, and you were NOT WILLING!" - Matthew 23:37              Additionally; Calvinists claim that human beings "have no free will,"       especially in matters of God and of the spiritual nature. The are in error.               Calvinists claim that God has predestined everything, especially spiritual       matters such as you repenting and being saved. Some Calvinists go as far as to       claim that unless God predestined something, God would NOT know it was going       to happen. They claim        that God is sovereign only to the point of willing everything and ALL that       happens.                     Consider; God instructed Adam NOT to eat of the fruit of the tree of the       knowledge of good and evil, and if he did he would surely die.              God told them NOT to do so, yet God predestined them TO DO SO? God predestined       them to do something He told them NOT to do? If that is true, then God has no       respect for His own word, yet God's word tells us this;               "I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy       lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all       thy name." - Psalm 138:2              >> Did Adam and Eve...              1. Choose satan because "God willed them to do so?"              2. Or, did Adam and Eve choose satan and reject God from an exercise of their       free will to do so?              The answer is simple; God did not predestine, cause or ordain, Adam or Eve to       sin, yet because of God's divine omniscient nature He knew they would.              >> Concerning our free will given to us by God, which Calvinists say we don't       have and that free will is a "myth."...              The words “will,” “free-will,” “willing,” “freewill,” “free       will,” along with related words such as “voluntary,” “choose,” etc.,       are found nearly 4,000 times in Scripture.              The requirement of willing obedience from the heart is a theme that runs all       through the Bible: “If ye be willing and obedient…” (Isaiah 1:19), “If       any man will do his [God’s] will…” (John 7:17), “If thou believest       with all thine heart”        (Acts 8:37), etc.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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