From: mthrbomb@yahoo.com   
      
   On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 2:52:43 PM UTC-8, rpbc wrote:   
   > On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 5:33:03 PM UTC-7, Matt2442 wrote:    
   > > On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 12:57:37 PM UTC-8, rpbc wrote:    
   > > > On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 7:38:27 PM UTC-7, Matt2442 wrote:    
   > > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 4:22:30 PM UTC-8, rpbc wrote:    
   > > > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 2:23:21 PM UTC-7, pass   
   v...@gmail.com wrote:    
   > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 6:22:39 PM UTC-8, DFWJ wrote:    
   > > > > > > > This is decent. There is a better one by studio. But this one is   
   for CT    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > Bump    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > Passiv: We need to remember a good tree never produces bad fruit!   
   Past leadership is what produced the stinking rotten fruit of today. I feel   
   for a certain special someone here just not seeing that obvious fact in his   
   mighty efforts to expose    
   the stinky fruit.    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > Both Scotts are false teachers! She learned it all somewhere! It   
   just isn't being said enough here anymore. Everything Melissa Scott IS and is   
   accused of and produces today was borne of and encouraged by and taught by DR   
   GENE SCOTT! BOTH    
   STINK!    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > rpbc: Yes... by one way or the other. It's a thought that can be   
   entirely embraced, false teachers. The fruit is definitely bad fruit, just   
   can't quite fully embrace that about him... even though he was always   
   dangerously careening against the    
   guardrail, there was a time he was a prophesy preacher in a three piece suit   
   railing against an insane world about things to come. Some of that stuff,   
   including academia, was quite instructive... one actually learned things from   
   him back then. Bad fruit    
   though, very bad fruit...    
   > > > >    
   > > > > Matt2442:    
   > > > > That man in the 3 piece suit, end-times prophecy preacher, reading   
   from Caroll Quigley exposing the NWO agenda, etc, yeah I see why that makes it   
   hard fully embrace the idea of Gene Scott being a false teacher, but the proof   
   according to Jesus is    
   in the fruit, not the presence of some good teaching at one time.    
   > > >    
   > > > rpbc: I hear you Matt... thing is it was his Resurrection message that   
   had the greatest single impact on me of any thing I had heard up to that   
   time...this being against the backdrop of my prior literal understanding that   
   it was said that Jesus    
   claimed to be God, rose from the grave and promised to return, etc,... I used   
   to make that point during upwardly mobile adult parties where the subject of   
   religion and beliefs were discussed, and it always seemed to end the   
   discussion with people nodding    
   in agreement realizing that had never occurred to them... thing is, Scott in   
   his Resurrection message connected all the dots and made them SIGNIFICANT,   
   informing on one's world view... oh my, Jesus... it's been Jesus all along...   
   his Resurrection message,   
    the one I heard years ago, provided me that epiphany. The bad fruit is   
   obvious, stinks to high heaven, but good fruit... there must be some through   
   the years, often, maybe usually, they are silent or have no common area with   
   others that share the    
   experience... outside of a fairly small circle he was never well known, most   
   outside that circle were short term experiences.. who knows how many he might   
   have touched. If I hadn't been involved in 'following him' as 'he follows'   
   Jesus, experiencing the    
   very ugly side of Gene Scott in the process, most of my experience with him   
   would be positive. I know I expanded a bit but that is why I find it difficult   
   to fully embrace the idea of Scott being a false teacher in the absolute...   
   that's just a bridge of.   
   .. of judgement... I just cannot make. But in terms of his personal evolution,   
   more and more it was absolutely bad fruit from the tree as it aged, something   
   that could be felt, measured, rotting all around it's base.    
   > >    
   > > Matt2442:    
   > > It's a bridge of judgement that we should not make. I get that. Yes, the   
   Resurrection message...I recall the first time I heard Scott preach that, and   
   it was actually in the midst of the Hope Street money drive in 1986 when one   
   could say he was    
   already going off the rails. I recall it's impact on me at the time. I   
   believed that Jesus rose from the dead, but never had someone actually lay out   
   the proof of it before. I resist absolute judgement on Gene Scott's ultimate   
   standing with Christ    
   because we are not allowed to make that judgement.    
   > >    
   > > I've always thought that the "false teachers" Jesus warned about were   
   unsaved, headed for ultimate damnation along with those whom they deceived,   
   but also assumed that their concept of who Jesus is would be completely   
   unbiblical. Scott didn't teach    
   the Christ of the New Age concept, or the Mormon, he preached Christ as God in   
   human flesh, crucified for our sins, Resurrected and ascended into Heaven,   
   returning in Judgement, etc. I just come back to how it turned out, and Jesus'   
   own words that "a    
   good tree cannot bring forth bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bring forth good   
   fruit." It's a bit confusing. Perhaps with Gene Scott, we ARE talking about   
   something else then, rather that an absolute false teacher. Scott was   
   definitely corrupt, abusive, not    
   worthy of the support he received, and it was absolutely the right thing to do   
   to stop supporting his ministry in monetary gifts (tithes, offerings) and   
   attendance.   
      
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