From: the_murphs@no_verizon_spam.net   
      
   Tammy is correct. What Londoner does may not be classified as a   
   stalker...yet.  If you keep finding excuses to go check out his house, walk   
   behind the property, you've got a problem.  And if you think you can just   
   walk up to a celebrity and hand him your script, you're a bit delusional.   
   Someone needs to find another hobby.   
      
      
   "IMTammyP"  wrote in message   
   news:20040507215911.10255.00001025@mb-m05.aol.com...   
   > >londonlondoners@aol.com (Londoner) wrote in message   
   > >news:<78083087.0405060923.6c151377@posting.google.com>...   
   > >> Any of you is entitled of an opinion about the fact and that's ok for   
   > >> me.   
   > >> Just to re-established my actions, the first time I went there was in   
   > >> December, by the time I was  curious to find his house.   
   > >> The second time I went there was last month, after arriving in CA when   
   > >> my friend who does those walking across montains in a daily basic took   
   > >> me there and showed the tracks behind his house.   
   > >> The third time I went there I just came to the street to see if George   
   > >> was in US or in UE because if the house was empty means he was in   
   > >> Europe as he is supposed to be for the next few months. That's was   
   > >> last week.   
   > >> I believed I had been in Harrods about three time for the 10 years I   
   > >> lived in London and I was not crazy about that store (some people goes   
   > >> everyday and are not consider sick shoppers)...   
   > >> Oh, yes, I forgot to say.. if I live in a close distance, I would go   
   > >> to walk in those trails as a routine... who knows if once I get a   
   > >> glance of him?????????????? Am I a stalker??????????????????? I found   
   > >> a very interesting page about stalkers and the law in a canadian site   
   > >> when the discussing the criminal activity of doing it.... if I   
   > >> understood well, unless a person is feeling afraid of someone   
   > >> behavior, the stalking activity can not be determined, it is, nobody   
   > >> can complain about a fan unless they feel fear about the person. In my   
   > >> case, George Clooney does not know that I exist (because I haven't   
   > >> transpass none of his privacy) and so, there is not a stalker here.   
   > >> Unless Dora is his representative and I'm stalking him through this   
   > >> site. That's the only place that my activity is disturbing someone.   
   > >> And about the Sicilian, that's another story and far from being a   
   > >> stalker I was a victim..... never mind.   
   > >> Happy birthday to George, if Dora can get it through to him :-)   :-)   
   > >> :-)   
   > >>   
   > >> Happy birthday to you   
   > >> happy birthday to you   
   > >> happy birthday George   
   > >> happy birthday to you.   
   > >>   
   > >> P.S. Of course I sent a birthday card to him.   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >> I am new to this site, but I have been reading the posts for some   
   > >time.  I prefer to just read, but this topic has caught my attention   
   > >and I must comment.  Londoner, you are NOT a stalker.  IF you were   
   > >such just because you have hiked on a trail that runs behind GC's   
   > >house he certainly has hundreds of such stalkers.  YES, there is a   
   > >public trail that runs directly behind his house.  This trail not only   
   > >runs behind his house, it continues on past other homes that one can   
   > >easily look into and on to a park and parking lot where numerous   
   > >people park and start their hikes.  This trail is popular with locals   
   > >and celebrities alike, it's quiet and scenic, provides exercise for   
   > >people and their dogs.  YES, you can see part of his tennis court from   
   > >the trail and the street.  His is not the only house/property a hiker   
   > >can see into.  During summer the foliage is quite thick and provides   
   > >him with privacy.  Most people who hike this trail know celebrities   
   > >live nearby and are seen on this trail.  If George had a problem with   
   > >the number of people walking by his house he would certainly move, he   
   > >has the means.  For those concerned about fans looking in on George   
   > >eating dinner, etc, fear not, one cannot see directly into the house.   
   > >You can see the tennis court, part of the roof, that lovely gate, and   
   > >fence.   
   > >Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and mine is that Londoner is   
   > >being attacked unfairly for using a public trail that happens to pass   
   > >by a celebrity's house.  Had she climbed the fence, rang the bell,   
   > >slept outside the gate, posted photos of the address on the web, made   
   > >any effort to make herself know to George or his people, then I would   
   > >worry.  Hiking three times a stalker does not make, if that were the   
   > >case, Studio City is full of them cause that trail is full of people   
   > >every day.   
   > >And to answer the inevitable question, yes I've hiked there, yes I've   
   > >seen celebs (Grant Heslov to name one) on that trail, to locals, it's   
   > >no big deal.>>   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Have you ever dropped by those trails with the sole purpose of finding out   
   > whether or not he was home?  As in, I wanted to know if he was in the US?   
   >   
   > Have you ever found yourself grasping at straws for a reason to be outside   
   his   
   > home that you think make perfect sense despite how nonsensical they seem   
   to   
   > others?  As in, my professors say I should do it to be a success in   
   showbiz?   
   >   
   > It is normal to want to see someone like George in person.  Or his house   
   maybe.   
   >  I think that is being wrongly focused on as everyone's problem with it.   
   First   
   > of all, some people don't even have a problem with it at all and have said   
   so.   
   > So, she isn't getting any more or less roasted than any of the other   
   people   
   > here have.   
   >   
   > The people that do have issues with it (and even some of those are being   
   > expressed as minor differences of opinion) have more to do with blurring   
   the   
   > lines between his public personna and his life inside that house as public   
   > domain.  It's not a new or particularly original sentiment.  He isn't on   
   call   
   > 24/7.   
   >   
   > Luckily, he was NOT home.  And we all know it.  If he were, I would   
   consider it   
   > a huge invasion of his privacy.  What do you think he would say if he were   
   home   
   > and saw someone peekng through his fence like that?  "Hi, you don't happen   
   to   
   > have a script you want to show me, do you?"  or maybe "Wow, I really   
   admire   
   > your curiosity!"  Not likely.  And, she was not there for the exercise so   
   let's   
   > not pretend it was about those fricking trails.   
   >   
   > Anyway, I'm sure he feels safe enough or he wouldn't be there.  The   
   interesting   
   > thing is Rosemary practically raised Gavin de Becker who is the author of   
   THE   
   > GIFT OF FEAR series of books and a celebrity security specialist and I'm   
   sure   
   > he would not approve of such availability to anyone on those very, very,   
   very,   
   > very popular trails.   
   >   
   > In THE GIFT OF FEAR, Gavin discussed fear as a basic animal instinct and   
   its   
   > usefulness to us--trusting this instinct, putting it to good use, etc.   
   Anyway,   
   > in one portion of the book he describes an unnamed female celebrity he   
      
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