From: somethingwitty@optusnet.com.au   
      
   "Ladybird"  wrote in message   
   news:7515b0b4.0406150112.147eee0@posting.google.com...   
   > > I choose to think he would not ask a woman to abort a baby, which is   
   what would have to happen if there was an ooppps and no baby.  I just think   
   taht in the   
   > > beginning he was nuts about Celine and he acted like it, but in all that   
   time,   
   > > he didnt get carried away?  And Celine, who wanted kids, would not have   
   gotten   
   > > rid of it, IF she truly wanted a baby with him.   
   >   
   > I think he would ask a woman to have an abortion. I think it is a   
   > perfectly reasonable position for a man to take if he does not want to   
   > be a father. We have become so preoccupied in recent years with   
   > woman's choice (and I am strongly pro-choice myself) but what about a   
   > man's right to not want to be a father? I know a guy personally who   
   > really got screwed over by a woman. She had the child without his   
   > consent and knowing that he didn't want to be a father. He refuses to   
   > have much association with the child at all which as far as I'm   
   > concerned is fair enough. He was never in a serious relationship with   
   > the child's mother to begin with. Now he's doing quite well   
   > financially and she's always taking him to court for more child   
   > support for really bullshit reason just to be spiteful.   
   >   
      
      
   though  I feel sorry for your friend I hope he has leant from this don't to   
   have sex with woman with whom he is not serious with.....   
      
      
   > In the whole Liz Hurley/Steve Bing situation I always felt sorry for   
   > Steve Bing. Liz really screwed him over. It's like she got to 37, it's   
   > baby time, Steve was a notorious commitment-phobic so she gets   
   > pregnant accidentally on purpose to a billionaire and now has a   
   > whopping trust fund for the kid. But no father for her child - Steve   
   > refuses to see it. Serves her right. The real victim in the whole   
      
   yes liz did get pregnant but she was more than capable of supporting her   
   child with or with out bing help. liz got piss off with bing because he   
   publicly called her a slut and claimed the child  was not his when it was   
   proven the child was liz told him to stick his money where the sun don't   
   shine . not to look bad in the press he start trust fund liz 's kid is lucky   
   not to have any thing to do with a jerk like bing.....   
      
   > thing is the kid but then he has a viper for a mother. Same with that   
   > woman who had an affair with Mick Jagger and broke up his marriage to   
   > Jerry Hall. Her name was Luciana Morad I think.   
   >   
      
      
   but their all friends now and spend holidays together Mick's a great father   
   to all his children.....   
      
      
   > Other men who've been burnt in Hollywood include Kevin Costner and   
   > Harvey Keitel. And have you noticed that these chicks can never get a   
   > decent guy again? Because they've revealed their true character and no   
   > decent guy would go near them with a ten foot barge poll.   
      
      
   yes there a woman in the world who get pregnant to better  there life style   
   but these men couldn't make them have abortion......   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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