From: somethingwitty@optusnet.com.au   
      
   "Londoner"  wrote in message   
   news:78083087.0407082113.2fec0e35@posting.google.com...   
   > ccarlajames@aol.com (CCarlaJames) wrote in message   
   news:<20040708173824.06824.00001198@mb-m13.aol.com>...   
   > > I am sure, whore, slut and an assorrtment of other names you were called   
   were a reflection of YOU sharing   
   > >   
   > I do not consider those names an offense when they are used to refer   
   > to me, since I was a pro. I considered them offensive when they use   
   > those names to refer to the girls Clooney dates, since they are not   
   > pro.  Call a pro a pro is natural. But giving it a moral connotation   
   > is another thing. I wasted my time trying to share my experiences with   
   > the women who have not worked in this profession. In the end of the   
   > day, if I were a nun, they would care less. They have no respect for a   
   > whore, they would not have it for a nun too. Lack of respect is not a   
   > particular attitude. It reflects in every action that a biased person   
   > takes.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Or perhaps they find no desire to face your bitterness.  I seriously   
   doubt both   
   > > these women have suddenly gone on "vacation" and I also think its a   
   little odd   
   > > for you to assume they would spend two or more weeks sorting laundry.   
   Still, I   
   > > guess its as good of an excuse as any as to why they have ignored your   
   slams   
   > > for the past two weeks and the past two days.   
   >   
   > Well, it was just last week I got their bitterness... and they have   
   > post anywhere else, so I presume they are in vacation or who knows   
   > they have gone forever and will join another fan group... great!   
   > >   
   > > Of which you supplied sharing your personal history and hobbys.   
   > >   
   > My personal history and hobbies generally gets curiosity, admiration,   
   > respect from people who knows me personally. To people who has   
   > pre-conceptions about the world, who judge others because of their   
   > profession, its their bad attitude that calling me immoral (as I said,   
   > if you call me a whore it does not offend me, but don't get personal   
   > to my morality, because it offend me). The names they call me that   
   > offend me are psycho, etc. Because of my personal hobbies? No, because   
   > of their narrow mentalities.   
   >   
   > > Hardly.  I think from the little I've read and the emails I've recevied   
   that   
   > > basically they've decided you are not worth the time to augre.   
   > >   
   > Would be lovely if they just kill-fire me. I don't need and I don't   
   > want the kind of readers they are.>   
   > >   
   > >  But they are no longer posting to anything you say, no matter how   
   insulting,   
   > > or how baiting.  that says a lot, if you are intereted in hearing it.   
   >   
   > Again, I hope you are right. I hope they have gone or they will give   
   > share their bitterness to somebody-else.   
   > >   
   > > THE SCORE?????!!!!!   
   >   
   > Yes, the score. The score is they are morons and so I think.   
   > >>   
   > > They dont owe other fans, George or anyone else an attitude adjustment.   
   They   
   > > need not change the way they feel, which, by the way, is not confined to   
   this   
   > > forum.   How arrogrant to assume they must change when in fact no change   
   is   
   > > needed on either side. This is a fan forum, not a sandbox, yet at times,   
   the   
   > > similarities are astonishing.   
   >   
   > It is not arrogance to expect to be among civilized people. It's also   
   > no arrogance to expect to keep some level of respect for other fans.   
   > They must change for their own sake or they can die being in their way   
   > they choose to be. It's never too late to learn to be humble, to   
   > recognize that some attitudes are inappropriate and disrespectful to   
   > others. If they like to be morons, let them to be morons.   
   > >   
   > >> It is their right.  I am not entirely sure whose newsgroup this is,   
   > but I am   
   > > sure its not yours, if I am wrong please correct me.  However, it is not   
   up to   
   > > you to set a tone, or chastise anyone for their opinions or attitude.   
   > >   
   > I don't own such a thing like a fan group. I don't own the ultimate   
   > opinion about George or anybody else. But it's up to me to tell people   
   > how I expect to be treated. To set a tone into a conversation I'm   
   > involved. I asked the morons few times to not post in the threads I   
   > open since they seems not to like my opinions. Still, they would keep   
   > post in the threads I open. They needed to do that, to say that we can   
   > not be respect even inside a thread we open. Usually I don't go to   
   > their threads   
   >  to pest them. If I do, it's ocassional, not what I normally do.   
   > Contrary, they always go after people to disrespect them. They love to   
   > call each other names...   
   >   
   > > And your's suggests?????   
   > >   
   > My attitude suggest I'm a person open to debate, who like to share   
   > experiences, who like to bring my own experience here not to expose   
   > myself, but to make new friends among people who admire George as me.   
   > >   >   
   > > Perception is 90% of anything.   
   >   
   > The other 10% is what we learn when we are in pre-school: to be nice   
   > to the next, because the next is our next. Some kids like to bully   
   > other kids, they like to be cruel...   
   > >   
   > > No, because there is no difference.  Both are, in your opinion, saying   
   > > offensive things, yet you take exception to only one, perhaps because at   
   some   
   > > point they actually responded, and from what I was told last night, the   
   > > "gay"poster does not, he simple continues to post as he wishes.   
   > > A difference that makes no difference, is no difference.   
   > >   
   > The gayish person has never being offensive to none of the other fans.   
   > He has an opinion that George is gay and he like to insist on that. I   
   > respect him and I would never go to his threat to call him names. Only   
   > once I post to him because he said something so immoral and racist, he   
   > did a joke about AIDS and people who practice anal sex and the joke   
   > was so sick that in respect for people who are HIV positive, I told   
   > him not to be such a fascist. We have to say a word when people open   
   > their mounth  to express against humanity values.   
   >   
   > > Arent you taking a little bit too much upon yourself.   Unless I miss my   
   > > guess,. you are a fan, so why should you set the tone of how someone   
   critiques   
   > > an actor.   
   >   
   > Because if someone says that the actor is a bastard, a sonafbitch, a   
   > motherfucker or something similar, you have to set the tone.  The same   
   > if they say similar things about his girlfriends. To set the tone, to   
   > ask for some level in the conversation is not to determine what a   
   > person can say and can not say. If I'm going to my mother in a church,   
   > she has the right to expect me to dress, talk, behave appropriate for   
   > the local. You keep insist that to set a tone is something that a fan   
   > can not ask to other fan. A group is auto-regulated, there is not a   
   > mediator, it's up to each of us to establish to other one the lowest   
   > line of the critic we want here. I try to tell people how low they can   
   > go in the thread I open. If they go lower, I will try to stop them   
   > calling them morons...   
   > > >   
      
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