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   From: xplar@netscape.net   
      
   "RT"  wrote in message   
   news:a9aa933.0309110508.1468e7a4@posting.google.com...   
   > > > Since when is reality a concept to consider when talking about a Toho   
   > > > kaiju movie?   
   > >   
   > > That was Honda's entire influence over Gojira. He tried to make it as   
   > > realistic as possible, and believed he only partially succeeded. He took   
   the   
   > > original story and moved it as close to the real world as he could   
   afford   
   > > to, both financially and cinematically. Kaneko is one of the few kaiju   
   > > directors to actually be a fan of the genre, and Honda's influence over   
   him   
   > > is obvious in the Gamera series. GMK was certainly an attempt to capture   
   > > come of the same feeling Gojira possesses, but limited by Toho's   
   parameters   
   > > of what can and cannot be done with G. The major difference, is Kaneko   
   has a   
   > > manga influence within his style, whereas Honda had the war,   
   documentaries   
   > > and dramas. Kaneko's vision was naturally going to be more "fantastic"   
   than   
   > > Honda's, and that is where he slips between approaches. If this was any   
   > > other kaiju director, I wouldn't debate this, but Kaneko made his name   
   by   
   > > being the guy who approaches things from a more realistic base.>>>>   
   >   
   >   
   >     Yes this is true concerning G 54 but by the time we get to GVM or   
   > especially GTTHM it is not. Honda's were pretty "fantastic" as well.   
      
   Well, as was discussed earlier in this thread, that becomes an issue of   
   studio clout and external forces such as TV.   
      
   > >   
   > > >    Once again. The real world and Toho kaiju movies are not the same   
   > > > thing. Isn't that one of the reasons why Godzilla has lasted almost 50   
   > > > years? Isn't that one of the reasons we all love these movies?   
   > >   
   > > The second question is subjective and the first is a very broad   
   statement. I   
   > > could argue G survived this long on merchandising alone, and that has   
   > > nothing to with the plausibility of the movies. I could also say G only   
   > > survived because Tanaka was a force of nature within the Japanese film   
   > > world, and G was his baby.>>>   
   >   
   >      I meant more here in the US. I doubt that merchandising has had   
   > anything to do with it here. Tanaka probably was a very big part of   
   > the engine, but I am pretty sure that Godzilla would have never   
   > survived if he hadn't changed with the times like he did, and that has   
   > very much to do with the plausibility of the movies.   
      
   TV was a bigger factor here than merchandise.   
      
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