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   Message 613 of 1,975   
   Rich Handley to Gassen Burnham   
   Re: Judaism's holiest book (1/3)   
   09 Nov 03 14:54:00   
   
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   From: rhandley@optonline.net   
      
   You're an idiot.   
      
      
   Gassen Burnham wrote:   
   >   
   >> The Talmud: Judaism's holiest book documented and exposed   
   >> ©1994 by The Old Order Brotherhood. All Rights Reserved   
   >>   
   >> The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence   
   >> over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in   
   >> the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more   
   >> careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the   
   >> words of the Torah (Old Testament)."   
   >> The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may   
   >> also be seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have   
   >> more knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis.   
   >> However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes Talmud,   
   >> of which they have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept.   
   >> 29, 1992, p.4: "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no   
   >> further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other   
   >> commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their   
   >> way." Because they don't traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black   
   >> Ethiopians are discriminated against and have been forbidden to   
   >> perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.   
   >> Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most   
   >> influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of   
   >> Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha   
   >> (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing   
   >> and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish   
   >> leadership.   
   >> N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the   
   >> rabbis authority: "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished   
   >> Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost   
   >> exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva   
   >> University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the   
   >> pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin   
   >> professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a   
   >> table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10,   
   >> 1993, p. 38).   
   >> Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchiks knowledge of the Bible as   
   >> the basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law.   
   >> The rabbis credentials are predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud.   
   >> All other studies are clearly secondary. Britains Jewish Chronicle of   
   >> March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are   
   >> "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."   
   >> The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions   
   >> Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in   
   >> Jesus time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early   
   >> Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because it   
   >> nullified Biblical teachings.   
   >> The famous warning of Our Lord about the tradition that voids   
   >> Scripture (cf. Mark 7:13), which is regularly used against Catholicism   
   >> by Protestants, is actually a direct reference to the Talmud or more   
   >> properly, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which   
   >> existed in oral form during Christ*s lifetime, before being committed   
   >> to writing. All of Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen,   
   >> represents Our Lord*s pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.   
   >> Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread   
   >> Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of   
   >> Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the   
   >> commandments of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible   
   >> is their supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does   
   >> indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As a   
   >> reader of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version) I   
   >> know this to be true.   
   >> There is a small Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew   
   >> Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites,   
   >> a most hated and severely persecuted group within Judaism.   
   >> To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical   
   >> commentaries). Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two   
   >> versions, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud. The   
   >> Babylonian Talmud is regarded as the authoritative version: "The   
   >> authority of the Babylonian Talmud is also greater than that of the   
   >> Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the former is decisive." (R.C.   
   >> Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah: A Basic Introduction to the   
   >> Writings of Judaism, p. 40).   
   >> This study is based on the Jewish-authorized, English translation of   
   >> the Babylonian Talmud: the Soncino edition. Every selection we cite is   
   >> documented directly from the text of the authoritative Soncino Talmud.   
   >> We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish   
   >> Talmud. Look them up for yourself. To verify the Talmud passages   
   >> cited, refer to the Soncino edition Talmud, which may be found in   
   >> large university and seminary libraries. The Soncino Talmud may also   
   >> be purchased from book dealers.   
   >> Translations: The translators of the Talmud sometimes translate the   
   >> Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of terms such as   
   >> heathen, Cuthean, Egyptian, idolater etc. But these are actually   
   >> references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). See for example footnote 5 of   
   >> the Soncino edition Talmud: Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted   
   >> for the original goy... Christians are sometimes referred to by the   
   >> code word Min or Minim.   
   >> It is the standard disinformation practice of the Pharisees to deny   
   >> the existence of the following Talmudic scriptures and to claim they   
   >> are the fabrications of "anti-Semites." This disinformation can only   
   >> obtain cachet among those too lazy to go to the English-language books   
   >> of the Talmud and look these passages up for themselves. Hebrew   
   >> University Professor emeritus Israel Shahak in his monumental 1994   
   >> work, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" (London:Pluto Press), has   
   >> confirmed the malice and racism contained in Talmud.   
   >> Like the courageous Prof. Shahak, we publish the following educational   
   >> material in the hope of liberating people, both Jewish and non-Jewish,   
   >> from the superstitions, hate-mongering and barbarities of Talmud. The   
   >> implementation of Talmudic philosophy has caused untold suffering   
   >> throughout history and now in occupied Palestine it is used as a   
   >> justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians.   
   >> Some Teachings of the Talmud Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis   
   >> deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement   
   >> in hell.   
      
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