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|    Ian Anderson to Mackenzie    |
|    Re: A question about the Elder Wand    |
|    30 Nov 10 15:28:01    |
   
   From: ThomasJGiarmo@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:13:29 +0000 (UTC), Mackenzie wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:10:46 -0500, Luterfish wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:09:37 -0500, Draco Malfoy wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> The Elder Wand is only powerful when in use. If you just hold it   
   >>> without casting a spell that instant, or you cast something at any   
   >>> target other than your dueling opponent you can still lose it to brute   
   >>> force (Gregorovitch vs Grindelwald) or by magical disarming (Me vs   
   >>> Dumbledore). So all sorts of scenarios are possible.   
   >>>   
   >>> - Albus could have shamed Gellert into handing the wand in   
   >>> - Albus could have distracted Gellert ('Where have you been all these   
   >>> years? I was so sad to hear of what you were doing. That wasn't at all   
   >>> what we were dreaming of') and cast an Expeliarmus while Gellert was   
   >>> distracted.   
   >>   
   >> I just to add to Draco's ideas here: the EW's reputation as an   
   >> "unbeatable" wand is just a legend - rather like the notion that Death   
   >> made the Hallows is a legend - spun from the Tale of the Three   
   >> Brothers. Yes, the Hallows exist, which is why some readers (and Ron)   
   >> are apt to believe that the EW is actually unbeatable, but in reality,   
   >> the EW is just extraordinarily powerful (as we see when Harry uses it   
   >> to fully repair his shattered wand that a wizard who was well-studied   
   >> in wandlore thought couldn't be repared). If it's not used with   
   >> caution, the bearer of the wand will lose it (as we saw with   
   >> Gregorvitch and the Peverell brother who made it).   
   >   
   > We don't know for sure how he won the wand, but think about when   
   > Draco was the true master of the wand...   
   >   
   > Draco has almost seven years of magical education, is (at best) an   
   > above average student...definitely nothing 'special' where as   
   > Dumbledoreis one of the most powerful wizards in history, has broken   
   > the bounds of magic everywhere and has more magical renown than most   
   > in history....   
   >   
   > If this theory is true how can the wand have given up power to Draco,   
   > a school boy, when Dumbledore, a wizard of legendary renown, possessed   
   > it?   
      
   At the point when Draco took the Elder Wand from Dumbledore,   
   Dumbledore was dying.......not only from his hand, but from the potion   
   he drank......so at that point in time, Draco was the most powerful   
   wizard.......Dumbledore: a dying old man.....Draco: a heathly young   
   man.......a no brainer for the Elder Wand.......   
      
   > Draco sux...in Potter and even more here on afh-p.   
      
   True. :)   
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