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   Message 129,052 of 130,933   
   Jeff to Andrew James Clutterbuck   
   Re: A question about the Elder Wand   
   30 Nov 10 15:36:49   
   
   From: yourimageunreels@sbcglobal.net   
      
   On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:35:58 -0500, Andrew James Clutterbuck wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:35:34 -0500, Mikey Lissack wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:28:01 -0500, Ian Anderson wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> At the point when Draco took the Elder Wand from Dumbledore,   
   >>> Dumbledore was dying.......not only from his hand, but from the potion   
   >>> he drank......so at that point in time, Draco was the most powerful   
   >>> wizard.......Dumbledore: a dying old man.....Draco: a heathly young   
   >>> man.......a no brainer for the Elder Wand.......   
   >>   
   >> Well all the time the E.W. changed alligance, the previous owner was   
   >> "WEAK" in some way.   
   >>   
   >> The first owner was owerpowered while he was sleeping and beeing   
   >> completely drunk = weak   
   >> Another one was held prisioner in his own cellar by his own son. =   
   >> weak   
   >> Draco lost the phisical struggle with Harry. = weak   
   >>   
   >> V. want's to own the E.W. to escape Death = weak   
   >>   
   >> I would say that this fits into the idea of Wandlore. If you win a   
   >> wand it changes alligance. And you need to do something to win it. Be   
   >> it stronger, cleverer, braver, ..... A wand doesn't just jump into   
   >> your hand   
   >   
   > Yeah, but weakness/strength isn't the reason it changes allegiance.   
   > We're told by Ollivander it changes it's allegiance based on who the   
   > victor is in a duel or a fight where one of the parties involved is   
   > the wand's master.   
   >   
   > Obviously a strong person will usually beat a weak person, but that   
   > doesn't mean the wand's allegiance has anything to do with strength or   
   > weakness, especially when we're specifically told it chooses based on   
   > who wins and who loses.   
      
   First Wandlore: The wand chooses the witch or wizard. For my   
   understanding the Elder Wand chooses the "worthy" one when changing   
   alligance. The worthy one has to gain it in some way, acting superior   
   over the previous owner.   
      
   I remember the false Moddy telling Harry to act to his strenghts and   
   he would pass the dragon. All four passed their dragon using their   
   individual strenght.   
      
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