From: liz.mahaney@cpwm.com   
      
   On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:40:17 -0500, Draco Malfoy wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:21:20 -0800 (PST), Rats wrote:   
   >   
   >> The Elder wand is supposed to be a wand that cannot lose in duels yet   
   >> Dumbledore beat Grindewald in a duel to win the elder wand off him.   
   >> How could this be?   
   >   
   > You can turn it as you wish, but the fact stands, that when I disarmed   
   > DD I was stronger at this very moment. I could have killed the almost   
   > dead DD with a well aimed kick. I acted bravely at this moment.   
   >   
   > And when Harry won over me he was stronger also. His life and the life   
   > of the others depended on escaping from Malfoy Manor y Voldemort. I   
   > was at home and was not fighting so much for myself than on order from   
   > Bella. Who I hoped to get a little from :)   
      
   I'm not turning anything. I'm just saying that in my opinion Draco was   
   never more powerful than Dumbledore, not even on that tower. He was   
   physically more powerful than him, but not in any other way. Even if   
   wands choose on strength, tho we're told otherwise, I doubt they'd   
   choose who's physically stronger, I would have thought they'd choose   
   who's more magically powerful. And Dumbledore was many times more   
   powerful than Draco.   
   He wasn't that close to death eiter. He was able to conjure the ring   
   of fire that drove off all the inferi and he was able to fly from   
   Hogsmeade to the tower without difficulty. He was perfectly capable to   
   body-bind Harry, so he wasn't completely disabled. If he hadn't done   
   this he would have been able to defend himself. Draco could kicked   
   Dumbledore to death only because Dumbledore was wandless and therefore   
   unable to defend himself. Draco with a wand could have defeated a   
   Dumbledore in his prime if Dumbledore doesn't defend himself. It was   
   nothing to do with strength, it was the fact that Dumbledore chose to   
   body-bind Harry instead of defend himself that allowed Draco to win.   
      
   And there's nothing to show that Harry was stronger than Draco either.   
   Harry took Draco by surprise. The chandelier had just come down, Draco   
   was doubled over covering his face, which had been hit by bits of   
   flying glass and was bleeding. He didn't even see Harry coming, so he   
   wasn't prepared to hold onto the wands.   
      
   I'm still not sure what you're basing your argument on. Ollivander,   
   the wand expert in the series, tells us quite clearly what wands base   
   their choice of allegiance on. He says that they usually choose the   
   victor of a contest or duel. Are you saying Ollivander was wrong? Was   
   he lying?   
   --   
   i smell retardation on the wind... honestly who had that fucking   
   idea... firing a nuke from an artillery piece or a tank is one   
   thing, but from a goddamn recoiless rifle?   
      
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