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|    Stu to John VanSickle    |
|    Re: PS/SS - I Have My Doubts    |
|    12 Dec 10 18:09:42    |
      From: stu-pid@foodforu.ca              On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:14:23 -0500, John VanSickle wrote:              > On 12/5/2010 4:45 PM, Draco Malfoy wrote:       >> My burning issue with PS/SS is that I'm surprised it ever got into       >> print. If I were the publisher it was presented to I would have       >> rejected it.       >       > I haven't checked, but I doubt that HP was accepted by the very first       > publisher to see the manuscript. Many successful books were rejected       > multiple times by editors before being accepted and published.       >       >> There is also a lot wrong with PS/SS as a book for children:       >       > This is your first serious error. Harry Potter is not a children's       > story. JKR has stated such more than once.       >       >> 1) There is a male lead, and the major female character is presented       >> in an unflattering light for most of the book.       >       > Perhaps you perceive this, but many of us do not.       >       >> 2) Joanne Rowling is clearly a woman, and boys may well be put off by       >> a woman author. Indeed the publisher insisted on the androgynous form       >> J K Rowling.       >       > The gender of a book's author would never cause a fair-minded editor to       > reject the book. Both the Hardy Boys series and the Nancy Drew series       > were written by a whole host of ghostwriters, all of whom used one       > pseudonym for the Hardy Boys series and another one for the Nancy Drew       > tales. Both men and women wrote for both series.       >       >> 3) The vocabularly used is above the reading age of most adults! What       >> is a philosopher¡¦s stone? Do you know the meaning of alchemy, boater,       >> gummy walnut, ickle, knickerbockers, moleskin, swagger stick, tailcoat       >> and tyke? All these are in PS/SS.       >       > I knew seven of these terms before cracking the book for the first time,       > and figured out the rest as I read. People are not as ignorant as your       > position requires them to be.       >       >> 4) The first chapter (that prospective publishers would have seen       >> first) is a pre-quel about a baby ¡V quite a difficult device and theme       >> for a child¡¦s book.       >       > And that caused every editor on the planet to reject it. Oh, wait, it       > didn't.       >       >> 5) The book is culturally restricted.       >       > *Every* book is culturally restricted.       >       >> The book is middle class in its       >> appeal with the world of Privet Drive, Surrey likely to be the milieu       >> of parents of the implied target audience. It is also Anglo-centric       >> (British station and trains, London, selective Hogwarts as a de facto       >> grammar school). A move to the US market doesn't look likely.       >       > It appears that your idea of what is "likely" is horribly wrong.       >       >> 6) The book is personal. JKR dedicates it to her daughter, mother and       >> sister (a real contrast to say Deathly Hallows) as if she was writing       >> primarily for herself. There is a sense that JKR needed to write       >> because she needed to write, not that she was writing for a clearly       >> defined audience.       >       > Seriously, nobody cares whom an author dedicates a book to.       >       >> 7) In both PS/SS and CS it is possible to work out in quite some       >> detail what Dumbledore must be doing chapter by chapter (presumably       >> JKR had done this as part of her plot planning). There is an implicit       >> plot as well as the overt plot, which is an odd device for a       >> children¡¦s book.       >       > But since Harry Potter was never intended to be a children's story, this       > is not a problem.       >       >> Maybe it is a form of genius that it is possible to get these issues       >> wrong and still write a best-seller!       >       > The only one getting issues wrong is you. You have compared what you       > would do, which is based in part on huge gaps of knowledge and       > unwarranted assumptions, with the actions of people who know better than       > you and who haven't made your assumptions.       >       > Regards,       > John       >       > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---              Harry Potter is a dangerous movie because it has themes of sexuality       and black magicks, and is aimed for a child audience.              There was a homosexual wizard in the movie, of who the main character,       Harry Potter, had ¡¥secret time¡¦ with and was not to ¡¥tell his parents       or friends¡¦.              Emma Watson started off as a young witch in the movie and is now using       her developed body to entice young hormonal children to come catch       glimpses of her exposed flesh.              This movie is a cultural element to our youth and since teenage youth       are impressionable, they will do whatever the stars of this movie tell       them to do.              The movie¡¦s writer, James Rowling Tolkien, well understands this fact       and is instructing Harry Potter and Emma Watson (Hermione Granger) to       go on a nude tour where they expose their bodies. I and Christwire       have exposed this strategy and on the Today show, the bald-headed Emma       Watson shocked parental audiences with a very tight, inappropriate       dress that accentuated her feminine curbs in very pronounced and       ill-tasting ways.              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CmZH3Yk-rY              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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