From: toon@toon.com   
      
   On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:22:56 -0800, richard e white    
   wrote:   
      
   >Toon wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:03:56 -0800, richard e white    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >Toon wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:09:36 -0600, Trevor Holyoak   
   >> >>  wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >> >On 10/31/2010 6:56 PM, Sky Rider wrote:   
   >> >> >> On 4 Jul 2003 19:24:44 -0700, aikorn@aikorn.com (Úlmøså ß.   
   >> >> >> Åçthë¤lôñû§) wrote:   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >>> I wonder... If Fudge needed more proof that Voldemort had returned   
   >> >> >>> than just taking Harry's word for it, why didn't Dumbledore take   
   >> >> >>> Harry's memory of the event (which would have been a kindness to   
   >> >> >>> Harry) and put it in a Pensieve for Fudge to see the event for   
   >> >> >>> himself?   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Another good question... tho I suppose it would kill the book if he   
   >> >> >> did that?? :)   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >I guess this question was answered by the modified memory of Slughorn   
   >> >> >being asked a certain question...   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >- Trevor   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Never understood why Slughorn thought Dumbledore of all people would   
   >> >> be fooled by that memory.  Might as well have given him a memory of   
   >> >> Slughorn announcing he's going to fake his memory.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> That's why I think it was a test for Harry.  Let him see a phony   
   >> >> memory, and learn how to acquire one.  Too bad those skills were never   
   >> >> actually used.   
   >> >   
   >> >It was used in a way when he saw snape remove and give him several.  It   
   >> >was the reason he forgave snape in the end.   
   >>   
   >> But Snape willingly gave them to Harry.  Harry never had to get a   
   >> memory form somebody.  Kreacher sort of.  But all that took was   
   >> listening to Hermione, and treating him with some respect.  Not   
   >> exactly the training DD gave Harry in memory retrieval (And no potions   
   >> to aid him in the real world.)   
   >>   
   >> Perhaps the pensive doesn't work after a traumatic experience.  Having   
   >> just seen Cedric die (by whatever means), Harry's mind might not be   
   >> able to produce the real memory in it's agitated state,  Snape might   
   >> have done it right through pure necessity and will power.  Which I   
   >> doubt a 14 year old cool do.   
   >   
   >Yes but it did tell harry how to know a real memory from a fake.  So he knew   
   >Snape's was real.  Like I said, it was using it in a way.  However, I will   
   >abmit I was expecting him to actualy collect one or give one but they never   
   >got into that.  Everyone who did it did it without words.  A bit odd that.  I   
   >also expected harry to learn how to give one.   
      
   Yes, HBP set it up that Harry would need to get a person to extract a   
   memory (Hence the whole Slughorn bit).  Not just ask Kreacher after   
   being nice.  A bit of a violation of Checkov's Gun, really.   
      
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