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   On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:34:08 -0400, VD wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:31:26 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >   
   >> Wilford Dumont formulated on Saturday :   
   >>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:22:11 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> VD explained :   
   >>>>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:03:25 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >>>>>> VD brought next idea :   
   >>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:49:32 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> VD pretended :   
   >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:35:52 -0400, Sirius Black wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:29:39 -0400, VD wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Benjamin Esham wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> * I felt much more nostalgic for the SS/PS days at the end of this   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> movie   than I did at the end of the book. I think it's because   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> epilogue  in   the book is given from Harry's perspective, and so   
   we   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> mostly see  how  he's   changed, while the movie still shows   
   pretty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> much the same  scene we  had in   the very first movie. It's easy   
   to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> mentally replace  that  long-haired kid   with 11-year-old Daniel   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Radcliffe--and not least  because  of the music!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice how Harry put Albus and Rose on the train to   
   Hogwarts   
   >>>>>>>>>>> beginning again the sequence of the Albus "white" Rose   
   (Rosicrucian)   
   >>>>>>>>>>> initiation...the seekers journey?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Food for thought ;)   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> There you go all Christian and religio on us. lol Bannister will   
   have   
   >>>>>>>>>> an atheistic hissy.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I am positive Mr. Bannister will be fine. ;>)   
   >>>>>>>>> Following the alchemical structure isn't a Christian effort. It's a   
   >>>>>>>>> liturgical one, the alchemical story can be allegorically ensnared in   
   >>>>>>>>> any belief set as long as that set follows the seeker's   
   >>>>>>>>> transfiguration of his soul.   
   >>>>>>>>> It's not my fault Ms. Rowling is an ascribed Christian. ;)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You can't miss the alchemical approach and yopu can't miss the film's   
   >>>>>>>> use of sequences from the earlier films either. Nice cohesiveness, I   
   >>>>>>>> enjoyed this.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Ring Composition:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 1) the Potter series and each novel have beginnings and ends that meet   
   >>>>>>> up.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 2) the books are centered; i.e. they return to the question raised in   
   >>>>>>> the beginning and answer that question in the end.   
   >>>>>>> 3) each book  has its mirrored image or ´reverse   
   >>>>>>> echo¡ in the book or chapter on the opposite side of the story divide.   
   >>>>>>> ABC|D|CBA   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Ms. Rowling follows very closely the lead of other alchemical writers;   
   >>>>>>> ring composition is yet another proof of Ms. Rowling's alchemical   
   >>>>>>> approach.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> HP is a much different animal that "Lord" but you probably donÿt want a   
   >>>>>> course in alchemical literature and ring composition, so Iÿll leave it   
   >>>>>> at that, since this is a post about the movie, not the books. :D   
   >>>>> If you imply that Yates et al were not concerned with the alchemical   
   >>>>> translations of the book to the movie. I simply don't know. I do not   
   >>>>> see any overt signs that the movie desires to stick closely to the   
   >>>>> literary alchemy, the movie is an adaptation after all.   
   >>>>> Yet, in the end all, DH2 does in many ways keep still to the   
   >>>>> alchemical (and Christian) underpinnings which isn't hard to explain.   
   >>>>> The book was the original draft of the screen write. ;)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I got no sense that DH Two or any of the movies much cared about the   
   >>>> alchemical symbology but I do think that Warner or someone understood   
   >>>> enough of the ring composition of the series to slap in those parallels   
   >>>> to prior movies.   
   >>   
   >>> Or they wanted to tie to the sympathies of the loyal following.   
   >>   
   >> That too. :')   
   >   
   > Ms. Rowling set out to write a series of books that told a Christian   
   > story using alchemical symbologies to deliver her message. I am sure   
   > she hopes to make a quid or two as well. ;)   
   >   
   > The movies are to make money first and to support everything else   
   > last. I vote with Wil on this one.   
      
   Three for Wil, counting Wil himself. lol   
      
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