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   Sirius Black to John M.   
   Re: Thoughts on the second DH movie   
   30 Jul 11 17:05:22   
   
   From: Emailaaronainsley@countermail.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:04:40 -0400, John M. wrote:   
      
   > "Sky Rider"  wrote in message   
   > news:j0fp275b4ig2v998hr782dodes8lm1g87a@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >> Sadly the films and book storylines diverted dramatically a long time   
   >> back! :(   
   >   
   >> That part was one of the things that frustrated me the most with the   
   >> two films. There were a number of back stories that might seem   
   >> unimportant as far as the 'action; was concerned but they were   
   >> essential in telling the entire story.   
   >   
   > It wasn't eiether essential or necessary to tell the entire story nor was it   
   > practical, probable or possible.   
   >   
   >> For example, there was nothing in there to explain why Kreacher obeyed   
   >> Harry when he told him to seek Mundungus   
   >   
   > Albus Dumbledore didn't understand the relationships between elves, houses   
   > and families either. It was never explained clearly in the books or films   
   > the concept of elf ownership.   
   >   
   >> As with the other films, the story was sacrificed to keep the action   
   >> flowing!   
   >   
   > The films tell a different story.   
   >   
   >> That part was well done... tho the 'kiss' was a bit better in the book   
   >> as Harry was there being his usual exasperated self :D   
   >   
   > I disagree. JKR has several scene themes she cannot write with majesty. One   
   > is the romance or love connection. You might argue that they were not true   
   > to the book, I would say that the argument is fundamentally invalid and if   
   > it were not, then the screenwriters had little to go on from the text.   
   >   
   >> That fight was such a let-down. Even the part where Voldemort vanishes   
   >> was just *wrong*.   
   >   
   >> We *needed* his body there to prove he was dead and   
   >> that it *was* finally over!   
   >   
   > Split into millions of pieces is proof enough for most everyone who I has   
   > seen the film.   
   >   
   >> The fight with Molly and Bellatrix was   
   >> over way too fast as well and there was no sign of the skills she's   
   >> accumulated from years of practicing with her brothers). It might have   
   >> been nice to have been given enough information for people to   
   >> understand who she was, what she was doing there, and how such an odd   
   >> person could have been able to defeat Voldemort's second in command!   
   >   
   > A reasonable person wopuld assume that she was capable simply because she   
   > performed Bellatrix' execution. Not everything requires a backstory when the   
   > screenwritten story line has scenes which are easily accepted.   
   >   
   >> The wand was important yes... but he didn't repair it, just snapped   
   >> the only wand that could have fixed it! Also... I'm wondering why he   
   >> didn't use the Elder Wand to help repair the castle before he broke   
   >> it... if break it he must!   
   >   
   > Unless the screenwriter's were to completely overturn the death,   
   > resurrection and self-sacrifice concepts, which JKR has claimed were   
   > extremely important, the Elder Wand could not be collected by Harry.   
   >   
   >> Yes - I really liked the epilogue in the film more than the book   
   >> version. It really was well done and made me feel more sad than   
   >> anything else in the film.   
   >   
   > Films do visuals; books do themes.   
   >   
   >> The film as a film was pretty good but in no way a masterpiece.   
   >> However, as a representation of the book and original storyline it   
   >> fell far short.   
   >   
   > Apples and oranges.   
   >   
   >> I'll buy the DVD when it comes out and watch it many times as I've   
   >> done with the others... but having seen it twice already I think I can   
   >> say it simply wasn't as good a film as it could have been and nowhere   
   >> near the sheer class of Chris Columbus's efforts in PS and CS.   
   >   
   > I see you define class as closeness to text. That is a very thin definition   
   > that very few films will ever hold.   
   >   
   >> While responding to this I reread parts of the final chapter and it is   
   >> *so* exciting compared to the film it's just got me aggravated... yet   
   >> again... about the cavalier treatment the story received at the hands   
   >> of the producer and directors.   
   >   
   > Why not stop making the apples and oranges comparisons and be happy?   
   >   
   >> I'm hoping that one day in the not too distant future someone will   
   >> make an 'animated' version of the books that shows them the way they   
   >> *should* have been made.   
   >   
   > Hope alone.   
      
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   This ought to be good.   
      
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