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   RVG to All   
   Re: What Got You Started On Symbology?   
   31 Jul 11 15:36:46   
   
   From: not.here@themoment.org.invalid   
      
   Chan Welbourne a écrit :   
   > It happens that RVG formulated :   
   >   
   >> Chan Welbourne a écrit :   
   >   
   >>> Not just alchemical but Christian, cultural, secular and other?   
   >   
   >>> Mine was "Ginny" Ginevra Molly Weasley. Ginevra is a Welsh (or Italian)   
   >>> derivative of Guinevere, wife of King Arthur, the true and fierce lover   
   >>> of Sir Lancelot – she was a ‘real woman’, and Ginny’s father’s   
   name is   
   >>> Arthur. B-)   
   >   
   >> Reading Nerval and Rimbaud in hich school in France. They inspired me   
   >> to study the so-called "language of birds" invented by the sufi poets   
   >> of Persia and brought to France by the troubadours back from the   
   >> crusades. Rimbaud's poems can be read one thousand times like as many   
   >> puzzles: by joining the pieces together following various rules, all   
   >> found in medieval literature, especially poetry and alchemy, you   
   >> actually discover hiddent sentences in either French or Latin. For   
   >> example in "Le loup criait" and "Le Dormeur du Val", if you extract   
   >> all the letters and sort them by frequency, you get the anagram of the   
   >> Latin sentence: "O cano cognem lupus chordæ" (I sing and know the   
   >> heart of the wolf).   
   >   
   >> Back in the 15th century, François Villon has been the last Parisian   
   >> /trouvère/. He wrote many poems in the Parisian slang of the time   
   >> called "jaron", a thugs dialect for which we have no translation   
   >> today. The French word for thug is "voyou" and for slang is "argot".   
   >   
   >> So Villon was the thug of slang or "le voyou de l'argotique". In other   
   >> words: "Le voyant de l'art gothique", the seer of the gothic art. He   
   >> was consecrated to Notre-Dame de Paris cathedral and his poetry is a   
   >> sort of comment of all the symbolism of this building, or a verbal   
   >> equivalent of it that he achieved in his Testament, the finest piece   
   >> of French medieval poetry that he wrote in his prison cell until he   
   >> was hanged to death.   
   >   
   >> In French the greatest specialist of spiritual symbolic was René   
   >> Guénon. In English I'd advise reading Joseph Campbell. But don't miss   
   >> Guénon even if he sounds very dogmatic.   
   >   
   > Very interesting read, thank you! :D   
   >   
   >   
      
   Glad you liked it. BTW it's "jargon" not "jaron". I advise all English    
   speaking readers to read Joseph Campbell. The man spent a long time in    
   France studying troubadour poetry and the symbolism of Notre Dame de    
   Paris. Furthermore he's the greatest specialist of James Joyce who's the   
   most important writer of the English letters in the 20th century (with    
   Yeats and, to a certain extent, Ezra Pound).   
      
   Then there's Alan Moore. When you're fully "geared" with Campbell, you    
   can start reading "From Hell" and "Promethea" with all the tools    
   required. ;)   
      
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