From: EMAILSeekingHarryPotter@rocketmail.comHERE   
      
   On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:43:47 -0400, Wilford Dumont wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:24:56 -0400, Sirius Black wrote:   
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   >> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:23:48 -0400, Wilford Dumont wrote:   
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   >>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:22:02 -0400, Sirius Black wrote:   
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   >>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:21:22 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
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   >>>>> VD wrote :   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:44:00 -0400, Wilford Dumont wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:43:10 -0400, John M. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I would like to jump in here to say that the reading of an alchemical   
   >>>>>>>> text (Potter, Chymical Wedding, Flamel, others) requires a training.   
   >>>>>>>> That does not mean that simple alchemical symbols cannot be pointed   
   >>>>>>>> out as Victor is doing, understood and made relevant. Think the Bible   
   >>>>>>>> which has its inner and outer knowledge sanctums. Both are relevant.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Well said.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yes it is and a very good point. There has to be a level of trust that   
   >>>>>> you have in any teacher which I don't purport to be, btw. Any data,   
   >>>>>> information source, has to be credible, believable and understandable.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> I have read enough of John Granger, Hans Andrea, Mark McClean and many   
   >>>>>> others to feel very comfortable with their understandings of alchemy.   
   >>>>>> I know enough about Ms. Rowling to feel comfortable with her...and   
   >>>>>> with the fully valid assessment that she has written a Septology using   
   >>>>>> alchemical symbology at its literary heart.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> I also believe that she understands that there may be a small   
   >>>>>> percentage of her readership that will be able to tear open the   
   >>>>>> superficial layers of HP and get at the underlying, alchemical   
   >>>>>> symbology.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not having to be an educated alchemical expert either as long as you   
   >>>>>> have a credible source to lean on.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What is rather depressing is that there are very few people interested   
   >>>>> in trying to find out what marvels there really are in alchemical texts   
   >>>>> and imagery. :/   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Would you mention any names like "name" who posts here? lol   
   >>>   
   >>> For one.   
   >>   
   >> Werks4Me. lol   
   >>   
   >>> We seem now to live in a world of rhetoric, where people are trying to   
   >>> win us over to their particular viewpoint and who don't care at all   
   >>> about the true facts or original meaning of something.   
   >>>   
   >>> The now defunct group of historical posters to AFHP represent this   
   >>> group.   
   >>   
   >> Their viewpoint is that this alchemy stuff is all shit.   
   >   
   > They're Da Vinci Code experts. It is a bit sad that people take a   
   > novel that seriously as a guide to exploring paintings or alchemy.   
      
   To undertake a discussion on alchemy is always means one will be out   
   on a limb. Nowadays everyone seems to totally and uncritically accept   
   that melange of 20th century romantic nonsense, esotericism, new-age,   
   psycho-babble.   
      
   These discussion will rather isolated one from those given up to this   
   artificial construct. Will people catch up in five, ten years time? Or   
   will the tide of esoteric mush just get higher and higher till one is   
   entirely left stranded?   
      
   No idea. ;)   
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