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   Message 130,040 of 130,933   
   Wilford Dumont to Sirius Black   
   Re: The Case For Canon As Text Only - Ro   
   11 Aug 11 20:04:56   
   
   From: wilforddumont@gmail.net   
      
   On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:02:35 -0400, Sirius Black wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:57:00 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >   
   >> on 8/11/2011, Sirius Black supposed :   
   >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:45:26 -0400, John M. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:37:45 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Sirius Black pretended :   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:23:22 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Sirius Black brought next idea :   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:15:39 -0400, Chan Welbourne wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> I do believe there would be interest and value in having JKR comment   
   on   
   >>>>>>>>> the books on a deep level, but I don’t see that happening anytime   
   soon.   
   >>>>>>>>> We would certainly get better answers from her if she allowed   
   >>>>>>>>> interviews with people who will challenge her about the deeper   
   meaning   
   >>>>>>>>> of the books, but will she? And if she does, I hope she gives the   
   >>>>>>>>> series a reread first. B-)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Rowling knows her books are full of timeline problems, misdirections   
   >>>>>>>> and downright awful mistakes. She isn't about to let a Victor Dix or   
   >>>>>>>> you or John or Wil get their hands on her. It would be damned   
   >>>>>>>> embarrassing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Thanks! :oÞ   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The worst of the worst was when Dumbledore makes this statement toward   
   >>>>>>> the end of the first chapter of PS/SS in response to Minerva’s   
   fussing   
   >>>>>>> over the excessive jubilation attendant upon the fall of the Dark Lord.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> “We’ve had precious little to celebrate for eleven years.” He   
   goes on   
   >>>>>>> to underline the matter by stating on the following page that for   
   >>>>>>> eleven years he has been trying to persuade people to call   
   >>>>>>> He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named by his proper name, Voldemort.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Looking back, we should have known that JKR was going to play foot   
   >>>>>>> loose and fancy free with timelines from that glaring error alone. :/   
   >>>>>> What's wrong with that?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do the math. lol   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That statement was made in 1981. Less 11 = 1970. In 1996 Fudge claims   
   >>>>> to have be hunting LV for 30 years. 1996-30 = 1966.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What's this boils down to is JKR didn't give a damn. :-[   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I will one up you, she didn't respect or care for her characters   
   >>>> either. We are also expected to believe that the Harry who mended   
   >>>> Demelza Roberts’s split lip from a collision in Quidditch practice   
   >>>> without problems in HBP suddenly doesn’t know how to heal wounds by   
   >>>> Chapter 2 in DHs. It makes him look like a real dumbcluck.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Or the brilliant Hermione Granger who can rewrite her own parents   
   >>>> personal histories and pack them off to Australia by chapter 6, and   
   >>>> yet claims she doesn’t know any memory spells a handful of chapters   
   >>>> later. This is one of the reasons I am convinced the book wasn’t   
   >>>> actually edited at all. JKR didn't care enough to do the editing,   
   >>>> someone did the proofreading and would have had to catch this error.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I know 11 year old schoolchildren that did so JKR said to heck with   
   >>>> it.   
   >>   
   >>> I got one. I got one. Kreacher’s Tale.   
   >>   
   >>> Of all the irrational stupidity. It’s small wonder my Black family is   
   >>> all but extinct. lol   
   >>   
   >>> So, let me get this straight: Regulus boasted, in writing, of his   
   >>> intention to destroy the Locket, then suicided (unnecessarily, since   
   >>> it sounds like he didn’t have to die) in a grand gesture, in order to   
   >>> steal it, and made no attempt to destroy it whatsoever. Leaving it up   
   >>> to his House Elf to actually perform that task.   
   >>   
   >>> How dumb is that?   
   >>   
   >> I used to keep a Live Journal of all the discrepancies, had to quit. It   
   >> took all my time, ruined the books and was so long it was unreadable.   
   >>   
   >> Point is, Rowling knew and she didn't care. It's almost like she did it   
   >> on purpose.   
   >   
   > ...to fuck with out heads, yeah, no doubt about it. “Voldemort is   
   > playing a very clever game" and so is Rowling.   
   >   
   > *NOT* How stupid does she think her readers are? DH is an 800 page "go   
   > fuck yourself" slap in the face not counting the cartoonish   
   > characters. Counting them it's a "go fuck yourself with a dry corn   
   > cob".   
      
   Like I said, you can't trust her interviews, you can't trust anything   
   she wrote extra-text and you can't trust the text. There really isn't   
   a canon except for those parts of the text that are trustworthy. I'm   
   not interested in working a Simms diagram to ream out the crap from   
   the keep.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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