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   Message 130,060 of 130,933   
   VD to Thomas J. Giarmo   
   Re: Sorcerer's Stone Alchemical Connecti   
   03 Sep 11 14:05:59   
   
   XPost: alt.magick, alt.books, alt.religion.wicca   
   From: EMAILSeekingHarryPotter@rocketmail.comHERE   
      
   On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:14:04 -0400, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:   
      
   >> Thomas, very interesting. :-? What are the properties of the Stone   
   >> referenced here?   
   >   
   > ...as a transmutation of a lesser valued metal into gold) and   
   > immortality (again a transmutation of the individual into some   
   > transcendental state of being or condition). I put possessor in   
   > single quotes because the Stone isn't always described as a   
   > physical object.   
   >   
   > ...(either in laboratories or using oneself *as* the   
   > laboratory/crucible)...   
   >   
   > ...the Stone... to communicate its benefits through proximity   
   > (touching base metals at the proper time and in the right way...it   
   > touches one's interior and is supposed to catalyze healing and a   
   > change making one's spirit or body into some special eternal   
   > substance).   
   >   
   > the Stone may also be described as having an entirely spiritual quality,   
   > even equated with religious agents such as Jesus Christ, among   
   > Christian alchemists and mages.   
      
   I feel as if I am Gary Oldham in the OotP after Harry claims he wants   
   to join and fight, sitting back, a quick hand clap and a wink of   
   acceptance. ;0) You have summarized well!   
      
   > as it appears in the Harry Potter series, it is more a plot device than   
   > fabulous and detailed connection to occult history, though the mention   
   > of Flamel, the identification of it AS a stone, and the magical   
   > properties it communicates to the person that holds it serve to justify   
   > its name. Rowling's property-set for the stone in her stories is   
   > unclear in my memory, though the evil magician seeking it [whose name   
   > apparently only Harry shall feel safe to repeat ;>] was convinced that   
   > it would grant him greater power and a return to a more ordinary life,   
   > freed from skulking under teachers' turbans and within the sewers of   
   > the Hogwarts school.   
      
   LV is a seeker; Harry Potter is a Seeker. They initially seek the same   
   thing, victory over (rather then glad acceptance of) death ala the   
   Stone.   
      
   Thomas, we will differ on the use of the Stone only as a plot device,   
   it is much, much more.   
      
   It is our introduction to Ms. Rowling's literary alchemy much of which   
   is patterned after The Alchemical Wedding of Christian Rosycross or   
   The Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz.   
      
   Dumbledore removed the Stone from Hogwarts (and Harry and Voldemort)   
   as much to keep eternal life from LV as to realign Harry on his own   
   transmutational journey, of his soul and his acceptance of death.   
      
   This is why PS/SS is so very important. It is the beginning of our   
   journey, our own transmutation and Transfiguration..if we so choose to   
   use our Inner Eye(s) to do so. ;)   
   --   
   http://www.may41970.com/kunstler.htm   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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