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   From: glass@panix.com   
      
   In article <10c76631-ef26-4881-ac37-9bb45d8d8da6@p14g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,   
   Tom   wrote:   
      
   >> Interestingly, of course, neurosis can be classically defined as   
   >> repetition without result.   
   >   
   >There are always results.  Neurosis is repetition with unintended and   
   >undesirable results.   
      
   Great point. If I were waxing theoretical I'd wonder whether the   
   "neurotic" component of the act of magick is the lust for [a] result,   
   which is never perfectly satisfied short of the attainment of ye great   
   work.   
      
   That is, even when we don't get what we want, the work still generates   
   results. Just unintended and undesired ones that observers interpret as   
   wasted effort.   
      
   Of course, the world is the representation of its own will, so the   
   "neurotic" self is simply that aspect of the magician that does not   
   conform to that macrocosmic truth. Some here might call it the   
   "chatterer" of desire, but I'm no buddhist.   
      
   This seems to get us back to the criminal will as a perversion or phantasm   
   of the survival drive, but there might not be a way around that with these   
   Freudian terms on the table.   
      
   >> >> > "Set these two asses to grind corn."   
   >>   
   >> Clear the way for Johnny Barleycorn.   
   >> This is the day that he will surely be reborn.   
   >   
   >And they hae taen his very heart's blood,   
   >And drank it round and round;   
   >And still the more and more they drank,   
   >Their joy did more abound.   
      
   In heaven there is no beer.   
   That's why we drink it here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)