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   XPost: alt.magick, alt.pagan.magick, alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic   
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   From: glass@panix.com   
      
   In article <214c21f9-3486-48a5-8f41-7c3e40ae6a3b@p20g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,   
   Tom wrote:   
      
   >When you look for results, you see results.   
   >Focus on the moment, not what came before or after.   
      
   Sure. But this is why there is no beer in heaven. Beer takes a brewer and   
   a drinker, after all.   
      
   The serious brewer doesn't have the luxury of living in the moment.   
      
   And if not for serious brewers, we would have no beer.   
      
   The luciferean double-bind of consciousness.   
      
   >> "Magick is willed action. Success is thy proof."   
   >   
   >Heh. "Proof". You know what I think of that.   
      
   I used to be in that camp before I entered this, uh, "mirror stage."   
      
   Reversing the way the line is conventionally read yields:   
      
   Whatever is self-evident [extant] has clearly succeeded.   
      
   Naturally, this is the beer drinker's samsara -- can't touch the stuff,   
   myself -- but unlike the conventional crowlean model it helps us explain   
   resistance. Why magick doesn't work.   
      
   >> "Unintended results are not products of [my] will."   
   >   
   >This is letting the tail wag the dog;   
      
   Definitely. Pulling the tail instead of the dog helps us discover if and   
   how they weren't really organically connected in the first place.   
      
   We see this all the time in the conventional model:   
      
   >prayers are answered only if you have enough faith. So if your prayer   
   >isn't answered, it doesn't mean prayer doesn't work. It means you   
   >didn't have enough faith. Since faith cannot be measured   
   >independently, the claim is unfalsifiable. Similarly, if you don't   
   >get what you want, it doesn't mean your True Will is not supreme, it   
   >means you didn't use your "True Will". Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.   
      
   >Crowley often made an ass of himself over the question of Will.   
      
   That's what ah'm TRYIN' to find OUT.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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