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   From: glass@panix.com   
      
   >> Whatever is self-evident [extant] has clearly succeeded.   
      
   In article ,   
   Tom   wrote:   
      
   >Crap.  If I do a dawn ritual and then the sun rises, it's a fallacy to   
   >conclude that I caused it to rise.  It rises anyway.  Post hoc ergo   
   >propter hoc.  "After this, therefore because of this."   
      
   Sure.   
      
   Who said it was [my] success?   
      
   Success has happened. The sun is up. Post hoc, ergo hoc.   
      
   You're the one reading from the propter here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)