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   tsbrueni@gmail.com to Thom Madura   
   Re: Yet *more* Fidelius Charm questions.   
   05 Oct 16 05:29:21   
   
   On Tuesday, September 2, 2008 at 6:38:39 AM UTC-7, Thom Madura wrote:   
   > "Here in Minnesota!"  wrote in message   
   > news:X74vk.29373$9u1.15926@newsfe09.iad...   
   > >   
   > > "Thom Madura"  wrote in message   
   > > news:48bcc7a0$0$7351$607ed4bc@cv.net...   
   > > >   
   > > > "Toon"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:tnunb4107v23l6hhut1sfr16vl7m5aih5t@4ax.com...   
   > > >> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:06:16 +1000, Welsh Dog    
   > > >> wrote:   
   > > >>   
   > > >> >As far as I can work out from PoA, James and Lily were killed within a   
   > > >> >week of the charm being cast over them and/or their house...   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >     "But James Potter insisted on using Black?"   
   > > >> >     "He did," said Fudge heavily. "And then, barely a week   
   > > >> >     after the Fidelius Charm had been performed --" "Black   
   > > >> >     betrayed them?" breathed Madam Rosmerta.   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >We know James and Lily went into hiding as soon as they were aware   
   > > >> >Voldemort was looking for them, hence no doubt Lily's complaint in   
   > > >> >DH...   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >     James is getting a bit frustrated shut up here, he tries   
   > > >> >     not to show it but I can tell-also Dumbledore's still got   
   > > >> >     his Invisibility Cloak, so no chance of little excursions.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> I don't think he ever grasped the point of psychotic sociopath hunting   
   > > >> for you and yours.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> >Also...   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >     Wormy was here last weekend. I thought he seemed down,   
   > > >> >     but that was probably the news about the McKinnons; I cried   
   > > >> >     all evening when I heard.   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >However in DH, according to the letter to Lily's that Harry found in   
   > > >> >Sirius' bedroom we learned that...   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >     Bathilda drops in most days, she's a fascinating   
   > > >> >     old thing...   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >From the letter Harry surmised that Peter was upset because he'd just   
   > > >> >divulged the secret of their location to Voldemort...   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >     Pettigrew, the traitor, had seemed"down" had he? Was   
   > > >> >     he aware that he was seeing James and Lily alive   
   > > >> >     for the last time?   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >After all that... the thing that struck me was that despite the charm   
   > > >> >having only been in place a week... and apart from Dumbledore already   
   > > >> >popping by to borrow the cloak... Bathilda appears to have had almost   
   > > >> >free run of the place!!   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >Seems a bit odd that the secret that was to protect their lives and   
   > > >> >that of the 'chosen one' was to be bandied about so freely! DD I can   
   > > >> >understand... but Bathilda??   
   > > >> >   
   > > >> >Welshdog   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > We know that Dumbledore did NOT know the secret - he had to get the   
   > cloak   
   > > > before they made the secret with Peter - because during Sirius' trail -   
   > > > Dumbledore - and everyone else - thought that Sirius was the secret   
   > > > keeper -   
   > > > not Peter.   
   > > > That is proven by the scene at Rosemerta's - where all still thought   
   > that   
   > > > way as well. So did hagrid - so he wsa not in on the secret either.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > Then there still the big hole with Bathilda... she would have to know the   
   > > secret keeper was wormtail and not Sirius and she didn't say anything   
   > > either.   
   > >   
   > > Unless....   
   > >   
   > > when Harry found out the secret of the OOTP he didn't know who the secret   
   > > keeper was   
   > >   
   > > "Harry looked down at the piece of paper. *The narrow handwriting was   
   > > vaguely familiar.* It said:   
   > > The Headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix may be found at number   
   > twelve,   
   > > Grimmauld Place,   
   > > London."   
   > >   
   > > He didn't find out later [after he knew the secret] who the SK was   
   > >   
   > > So...   
   > >   
   > > Maybe DD & Bathilda were told the secret but never knew for sure who the   
   > SK   
   > > was just like Harry didn't know.   
   > >   
   >   
   > I think it was more likely that Bathilda would not have been considered a   
   > religable witness.   
      
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