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|    Without Fear of Divine Retribution, Reli    |
|    27 Apr 14 18:00:00    |
      XPost: alt.atheism, alt.fan.jesus-christ       From: OccupiersDumberThanDirt@invalid.net              Divine retribution is supernatural punishment of a person, a       group of people, or everyone by a deity in response to some       action. Many cultures have a story about how a deity exacted       punishment on previous inhabitants of their land, causing their       doom.              An example of divine retribution is the story found in many       cultures about a great flood destroying all of humanity, as       described in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Hindu Vedas, or Book of       Genesis (6:9-8:22), leaving one principal 'chosen' survivor. In       the first example it is Utnapishtim, and in the last example       Noah. References in the Qur'an to a man named Nuh who was       commanded by God to build an ark also suggest that one man and       his followers were saved in a great flood.              Other examples in Hebrew religious literature include the       dispersion of the builders of the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:1-       9), the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18:20-21,       19:23-28), and the Ten Plagues visited upon the ancient       Egyptians for persecuting the children of Israel (Exodus,       Chapters 7-12). Similarly, in Greek mythology, the goddess Hera       often became enraged when her husband, Zeus, would impregnate       mortal women, and would exact divine retribution on the       children born of such affairs. In some versions of the myth,       Medusa was turned into her monstrous form as divine retribution       for her vanity; in others it was as punishment for being raped       by Poseidon.              In most cases, the Bible refers to be divine retribution as       being delayed or "treasured up" to a future time.[1] Sight of       God's supernatural works and retribution would mitigate against       faith in God's Word.[2]              Divine retribution is aligned with divine vengeance.[3]       Almighty God alone is a just judge.[4] Delayed judgment will       eventually become eternally displayed.[5]              The wrath of God is aligned with God's nature where He loves       righteousness and hates wickedness.[6] The wrath of God is       closely associated with Divine administration of justice. The       wrath of God is commonly contrasted with the love of God.              Some religions have no concept of divine retribution, or of a       god being capable of expressing such low human sentiments as       jealousy, vengeance, or wrath. For example, in Deism and       Pandeism, the Creator has no need to intervene in our Universe       at all, and so exhibits no such behavior. In Pantheism (as       reflected in Pandeism as well), God is the Universe and       encompasses everything within it, and so has no need for       retribution, as all things against which retribution might be       taken are simply within God. This view is reflected in some       pantheistic or pandeistic forms of Hinduism, as well.              The concept of divine retribution is resolutely denied in       Buddhism. Gautama Buddha did not endorse belief in a creator       deity,[7][8] refused to express any views on creation[9] and       stated that questions on the origin of the world are worthless.       [10][11] The non-adherence[12] to the notion of an omnipotent       creator deity or a prime mover is seen by many as a key       distinction between Buddhism and other religions.              But Buddhists do accept the existence of beings in higher       realms (see Buddhist cosmology), known as devas, but they, like       humans, are said to be suffering in samsara,[13] and are not       necessarily wiser than us. The Buddha is often portrayed as a       teacher of the gods,[14] and superior to them.[15] Despite this       there are believed to be enlightened devas.[16] But since there       may also be unenlightened devas, there also may be godlike       beings who engage in retributive acts, but if they do so, then       they do so out of their own ignorance of a greater truth.              Despite this nontheism, Buddhism nevertheless fully accepts the       theory of karma, which posts punishment-like effects, such as       rebirths in realms of torment, as a consequence of wrongful       actions. Unlike in most Abrahamic monotheistic religions, these       effects are not eternal, though they can last for a very long       time. Due to nontheism, these are not punishment as in       something imposed by an authority from above, rather they are       regarded as a natural consequence of wrongful action.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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