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   Re: Re: Watch: our Hilarious Senile Resi   
   02 Feb 16 15:13:17   
   
   From: mars1933@hotmail.com   
      
   By Robert Faurisson   
      
   In what respect is Elie Wiesel a witness to the alleged gas chambers?   
   By what right does he ask us to believe in that means of   
   extermination? In an autobiographical book that supposedly describes   
   his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, he nowhere mentions the   
   gas chambers. [2] He does indeed say that the Germans executed Jews,   
   but ... by fire; by throwing them alive into flaming ditches, before   
   the very eyes of the deportees! No less than that!   
   Here Wiesel the false witness had some bad luck. Forced to choose from   
   among several Allied war propaganda lies, he chose to defend the fire   
   lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or electrocution lies. In   
   1956, when he published his testimony in Yiddish, the fire lie was   
   still alive in certain circles. This lie is the origin of the term   
   Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single historian who believes   
   that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the boiling water and of   
   electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas remains.   
   The gassing lie was spread by the Americans. [3] The lie that Jews   
   were killed by boiling water or steam (specifically at Treblinka) was   
   spread by the Poles. [4] The electrocution lie was spread by the   
   Soviets. [5]   
      
   The fire lie is of undetermined origin. It is in a sense as old as war   
   propaganda or hate propaganda. In his memoir, Night, which is a   
   version of his earlier Yiddish testimony, Wiesel reports that at   
   Auschwitz there was one flaming ditch for the adults and another one   
   for babies. He writes: [6]   
      
   Not far from us, flames were leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames.   
   They were burning something. A lorry drew up at the pit and delivered   
   its load-little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it-saw it with my own   
   eyes ... Those children in the flames. (Is it surprising that I could   
   not sleep after that? Sleep has fled from my eyes.)   
   A little farther on there was another ditch with gigantic flames where   
   the victims suffered "slow agony in the flames." Wiesel's column was   
   led by the Germans to within "three steps" of the ditch, then to "two   
   steps." "Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left   
   and made to go into a barracks."   
      
   An exceptional witness himself, Wiesel assures us of his having met   
   other exceptional witnesses. Regarding Babi Yar, a place in Ukraine   
   where the Germans executed Soviet citizens, among them Jews, Wiesel   
   wrote: [7]   
      
   Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground   
   never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood   
   spurted from it.   
      
   These words did not slip from their author in a moment of frenzy:   
   first, he wrote them, then some unspecified number of times (but at   
   least once) he had to reread them in the proofs; finally, his words   
   were translated into various languages, as is everything this author   
   writes.   
      
   That Wiesel personally survived, was, of course, the result of a   
   miracle. He says that: [8]   
      
   In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 persons to their deaths each day. I was   
   always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?   
   In 1954 French scholar Germaine Tillion analyzed the "gratuitous lie"   
   with regard to the German concentration camps. She wrote: [9]   
   Those persons [who gratuitously lie] are, to tell the truth, much more   
   numerous than people generally suppose, and a subject like that of the   
   concentration camp world-well designed, alas, to stimulate   
   sado-masochistic imaginings-offered them an exceptional field of   
   action. We have known numerous mentally damaged persons, half   
   swindlers and half fools, who exploited an imaginary deportation; we   
   have known others of them-authentic deportees-whose sick minds strove   
   to go even beyond the monstrosities that they had seen or that people   
   said had happened to them. There have been publishers to print some of   
   their imaginings, and more or less official compilations to use them,   
   but publishers and compilers are absolutely inexcusable, since the   
   most elementary inquiry would have been enough to reveal the   
   imposture.   
      
   Tillion lacked the courage to give examples and names. But that is   
   usually the case. People agree that there are false gas chambers that   
   tourists and pilgrims are encouraged to visit, but they do not tell us   
   where. They agree that there are false "eyewitnesses," but in general   
   they name only Martin Gray, the well-known swindler, at whose request   
   Max Gallo, with full knowledge of what he was doing, fabricated the   
   bestseller For Those I Loved.   
      
   Jean-François Steiner is sometimes named as well. His bestselling   
   novel Treblinka (1966) was presented as a work of which the accuracy   
   of every detail was guaranteed by oral or written testimony. In   
   reality it was a fabrication attributable, at least in part, to the   
   novelist Gilles Perrault. [10] Marek Halter, for his part, published   
   his La Mémoire d'Abraham in 1983; as he often does on radio, he talked   
   there about his experiences in the Warsaw ghetto. However, if we are   
   to believe an article by Nicolas Beau that is quite favorable to   
   Halter, [11] little Marek, about three years old, and his mother left   
   Warsaw not in 1941 but in October of 1939, before the establishment of   
   the ghetto there by the Germans. Halter's book is supposed to have   
   been actually written by a ghost writer, Jean-Noël Gurgan.   
   Filip Müller is the author of Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the   
   Gas Chambers, [12] which won the 1980 prize of the International   
   League against Racism and Anti-Semitism (LICRA). This nauseous   
   best-seller is actually the work of a German ghost writer, Helmut   
   Freitag, who did not hesitate to engage in plagiarism. [13] The source   
   of the plagiarism is Auschwitz: A Doctor's Eyewitness Account, another   
   best-seller made up out of whole cloth and attributed to Miklos   
   Nyiszli. [14]   
      
   Thus a whole series of works presented as authentic documents turns   
   out to be merely compilations attributable to various ghost writers:   
   Max Gallo, Gilles Perrault, Jean-Noël Gurgan (?), and Helmut Freitag,   
   among others.   
      
   We would like to know what Germaine Tillion thinks about Elie Wiesel   
   today. With him the lie is certainly not gratuitous. Wiesel claims to   
   be full of love for humanity. However, he does not refrain from an   
   appeal to hatred. In his opinion: [15]   
      
   Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of   
   hate-healthy, virile hate-for what the German personifies and for what   
   persists in the German. To do otherwise would be a betrayal of the   
   dead.   
      
   At the beginning of 1986, 83 deputies of the German Bundestag took the   
   initiative of proposing Wiesel for the Nobel Peace Prize. This would   
   be, they said, "a great encouragement to all who are active in the   
   process of reconciliation." [16] That is what might be called "going   
   from National Socialism to national masochism."   
      
      
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