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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       From: mars1933@hotmail.com              The Nuremberg court was not selected from, or composed of, judges of       the neutral Swiss, or the neutral Swedes, or some more distant       African, Asian or Latin American countries. American civilian judges       to a large extent made up the core of the Allied judges-not military       career officers, who might have had some understanding and compassion       for what the military leaders and the civilian government under       extreme war time conditions lived through. They could have undoubtedly       had a greater appreciation of why some of the wartime measures were       undertaken by Germany in the desperate days of the war. The "liberal       country club" experienced set of small town American judges could not.              Furthermore, the Allied victors blatantly carried on their war against       the Germans by other means long after the shooting had stopped-not by       bombs and bullets but this time by falsely diagnosing psychologists       or, worse, by giving torturers a free hand: cynical and brutal       investigators who could, and frequently did, mistreat, beat, whip,       starve, suffocate and mutilate their prisoners into giving confessions       and statements which were as cruelly extracted as were the confessions       from witches during the disgusting witchcraft trials of the Dark Ages.       The injustice of the Nuremberg Trials was testified to not only by       Harlan Fiske Stone, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United       States, but also Iowa Supreme Court Justice Charles F. Wennerstrum, a       man of the Midwest, who sat on one of the tribunals trying lesser       alleged Nazi war criminals after the war.              Wennerstrum pointed out in a celebrated and controversial interview       given to a reporter of the Chicago Daily Tribune that frequently the       interrogators and some of the prosecutors were Jews who had fled Nazi       Germany and came back in Allied uniforms to torment and seek revenge       on the National Socialists who had wanted to expel the Jews from       European living space because they considered them harmful to the war       effort and to Western European civilization.              Here is how the article described the lot that came to post-war       Germany to settle private scores, as seen through Justice       Wennerstrum's eyes, after he quit in disgust:              "If I had known seven months ago what I know today," (Wennerstrum)       told friends as he packed to leave for America, "I would never have       come here. . . The initial war crimes trial here was judged and       prosecuted by Americans, Russians, British and French with much of the       time, effort and expenses devoted to whitewashing the Allies and       placing the sole blame for World War II upon Germany.              "What I have said of the nationalist character of the tribunals," the       judge continued, "applies to the prosecution. The high ideals       announced as the motives for creating these tribunals has not been       evident.              "The prosecution has failed to maintain objectivity aloof from       vindictiveness, aloof from personal ambitions for convictions. It has       failed to strive to lay down precedents which might help the world to       avoid future wars. The entire atmosphere here is unwholesome.       Linguists were needed. the Americans are notably poor linguists.       Lawyers, clerks, interpreters and researchers were employed who became       Americans only in recent years, whose backgrounds were embedded in       Europe's hatreds and prejudices. . . (emphasis added) (Chicago Daily       Tribune, 23 February 1948)              In other words, the Allies supplied the interrogators, most of them       Jews-as some of the victims, who had had a lifetime of experience in       dealing with Jews and thus recognized them, have stated. Those of us       who are German and can speak German can easily discern the ethnicity       of some of the accusers by their mere accents and patterns of speech,       even in radio broadcasts and newsreels.              Most of the evidence in the trials was "documentary," selected by the       Allies from the large tonnage of captured records. The document       selection was made by the prosecution. The defense had access only to       those documents which the prosecution considered material to the case       and were made available to the defense. The Allies could choose to       release or to hide and/or destroy any documents which did not fit       their post-war strategy or plans at Nuremberg. The Allies admitted       elsewhere that their propaganda Ministries and Intelligence Services       had previously forged Nazi stamps, Nazi passes, Nazi passports,       orders, ID cards etc. which fooled the Nazis many times because they       were so perfect and over which the Allied propagandists gloat to this       day. It does not take a great leap of the imagination to think what       these same Allied Government agencies, their personnel and forgers of       documents could do now with all the captured genuine German       document-producing facilities, the captured type writers, rubber       stamps and tons of letter heads of all sizes and description and of       any National Socialist organization you care to mention.              Even setting aside questionable "documentary" evidence, let's look at       some of the accused's "testimony"-how it was extracted, and what it       really means.              Like vile exclamation marks, at the heart of the Nuremberg Tribunal       stand certain words: "Genocide" "Gas chamber." "Six million." These       words, and the value judgment concepts they connote, were derived       largely from the admissions and affidavit of one man, Rudolf Hoess,       the one-time war-time Kommandant at Auschwitz.              Rudolf Hoess was the Allies' most important witness to the       "Holocaust." His affidavit and his testimony were quoted extensively       both by the prosecution and in the judgment of the IMT at Nuremberg,       as well as by the press. It was his testimony which laid the       foundation and validated the claim of the ". . . extermination of       millions of people by gas at Auschwitz." Hoess's "confession" is       heavily relied upon by historians like Raul Hilberg and others as a       primary documentary source to this day.              It is true that Hoess witnessed at Nuremberg to horrendous       "atrocities," and he also confirmed the "truth" under oath of an       affidavit which he agreed to sign for the prosecution. In it, he       confessed to having given orders for the gassing of millions of       victims. The affidavit, by the way, was in English, a language he did       not speak or understand, according to family members.              We now know from the book "Legions of Death" that Rudolf Hoess was       beaten almost to death by Jewish members of the British Field Police       Force upon capture and badly mistreated thereafter until he gave this       very devastating "testimony" and "affidavit" used by the Allies       propagandists ever since. You be the judge. Here is an excerpt from       this book by Rupert Butler, published by Hamlyn Paperbacks, page 235:       At 5 PM on 11 March 1946, Frau Hoess opened her front door to six       intelligence specialists in British uniform, most of them tall and       menacing and all of them practiced in the more sophisticated       techniques of sustained and merciless investigation.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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