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   Re: Re: that'll be fun scumbag kike ! (1   
   03 Jun 16 16:31:32   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: mars1933@hotmail.com   
      
   The Nuremberg court was not selected from, or composed of, judges of   
   the neutral Swiss, or the neutral Swedes, or some more distant   
   African, Asian or Latin American countries. American civilian judges   
   to a large extent made up the core of the Allied judges-not military   
   career officers, who might have had some understanding and compassion   
   for what the military leaders and the civilian government under   
   extreme war time conditions lived through. They could have undoubtedly   
   had a greater appreciation of why some of the wartime measures were   
   undertaken by Germany in the desperate days of the war. The "liberal   
   country club" experienced set of small town American judges could not.   
      
   Furthermore, the Allied victors blatantly carried on their war against   
   the Germans by other means long after the shooting had stopped-not by   
   bombs and bullets but this time by falsely diagnosing psychologists   
   or, worse, by giving torturers a free hand: cynical and brutal   
   investigators who could, and frequently did, mistreat, beat, whip,   
   starve, suffocate and mutilate their prisoners into giving confessions   
   and statements which were as cruelly extracted as were the confessions   
   from witches during the disgusting witchcraft trials of the Dark Ages.   
   The injustice of the Nuremberg Trials was testified to not only by   
   Harlan Fiske Stone, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United   
   States, but also Iowa Supreme Court Justice Charles F. Wennerstrum, a   
   man of the Midwest, who sat on one of the tribunals trying lesser   
   alleged Nazi war criminals after the war.   
      
   Wennerstrum pointed out in a celebrated and controversial interview   
   given to a reporter of the Chicago Daily Tribune that frequently the   
   interrogators and some of the prosecutors were Jews who had fled Nazi   
   Germany and came back in Allied uniforms to torment and seek revenge   
   on the National Socialists who had wanted to expel the Jews from   
   European living space because they considered them harmful to the war   
   effort and to Western European civilization.   
      
   Here is how the article described the lot that came to post-war   
   Germany to settle private scores, as seen through Justice   
   Wennerstrum's eyes, after he quit in disgust:   
      
   "If I had known seven months ago what I know today," (Wennerstrum)   
   told friends as he packed to leave for America, "I would never have   
   come here. .  . The initial war crimes trial here was judged and   
   prosecuted by Americans, Russians, British and French with much of the   
   time, effort and expenses devoted to whitewashing the Allies and   
   placing the sole blame for World War II upon Germany.   
      
   "What I have said of the nationalist character of the tribunals," the   
   judge continued, "applies to the prosecution. The high ideals   
   announced as the motives for creating these tribunals has not been   
   evident.   
      
   "The prosecution has failed to maintain objectivity aloof from   
   vindictiveness, aloof from personal ambitions for convictions. It has   
   failed to strive to lay down precedents which might help the world to   
   avoid future wars. The entire atmosphere here is unwholesome.   
   Linguists were needed. the Americans are notably poor linguists.   
   Lawyers, clerks, interpreters and researchers were employed who became   
   Americans only in recent years, whose backgrounds were embedded in   
   Europe's hatreds and prejudices. . . (emphasis added) (Chicago Daily   
   Tribune, 23 February 1948)   
      
   In other words, the Allies supplied the interrogators, most of them   
   Jews-as some of the victims, who had had a lifetime of experience in   
   dealing with Jews and thus recognized them, have stated. Those of us   
   who are German and can speak German can easily discern the ethnicity   
   of some of the accusers by their mere accents and patterns of speech,   
   even in radio broadcasts and newsreels.   
      
   Most of the evidence in the trials was "documentary," selected by the   
   Allies from the large tonnage of captured records. The document   
   selection was made by the prosecution. The defense had access only to   
   those documents which the prosecution considered material to the case   
   and were made available to the defense. The Allies could choose to   
   release or to hide and/or destroy any documents which did not fit   
   their post-war strategy or plans at Nuremberg.  The Allies admitted   
   elsewhere that their propaganda Ministries and Intelligence Services   
   had previously forged Nazi stamps, Nazi passes, Nazi passports,   
   orders, ID cards etc. which fooled the Nazis many times because they   
   were so perfect and over which the Allied propagandists gloat to this   
   day. It does not take a great leap of the imagination to think what   
   these same Allied Government agencies, their personnel and forgers of   
   documents could do now with all the captured genuine German   
   document-producing facilities, the captured type writers, rubber   
   stamps and tons of letter heads of all sizes and description and of   
   any National Socialist organization you care to mention.   
      
   Even setting aside questionable "documentary" evidence, let's look at   
   some of the accused's "testimony"-how it was extracted, and what it   
   really means.   
      
   Like vile exclamation marks, at the heart of the Nuremberg Tribunal   
   stand certain words: "Genocide" "Gas chamber." "Six million." These   
   words, and the value judgment concepts they connote, were derived   
   largely from the admissions and affidavit of one man, Rudolf Hoess,   
   the one-time war-time Kommandant at Auschwitz.   
      
   Rudolf Hoess was the Allies' most important witness to the   
   "Holocaust." His affidavit and his testimony were quoted extensively   
   both by the prosecution and in the judgment of the IMT at Nuremberg,   
   as well as by the press. It was his testimony which laid the   
   foundation and validated the claim of the ". .  . extermination of   
   millions of people by gas at Auschwitz." Hoess's "confession" is   
   heavily relied upon by historians like Raul Hilberg and others as a   
   primary documentary source to this day.   
      
   It is true that Hoess witnessed at Nuremberg to horrendous   
   "atrocities," and he also confirmed the "truth" under oath of an   
   affidavit which he agreed to sign for the prosecution. In it, he   
   confessed to having given orders for the gassing of millions of   
   victims. The affidavit, by the way, was in English, a language he did   
   not speak or understand, according to family members.   
      
   We now know from the book "Legions of Death" that Rudolf Hoess was   
   beaten almost to death by Jewish members of the British Field Police   
   Force upon capture and badly mistreated thereafter until he gave this   
   very devastating "testimony" and "affidavit" used by the Allies   
   propagandists ever since. You be the judge. Here is an excerpt from   
   this book by Rupert Butler, published by Hamlyn Paperbacks, page 235:   
   At 5 PM on 11 March 1946, Frau Hoess opened her front door to six   
   intelligence specialists in British uniform, most of them tall and   
   menacing and all of them practiced in the more sophisticated   
   techniques of sustained and merciless investigation.   
      
      
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